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Which bachelor degree will be more helpful for game development?

Hello, i am currently accepted in a university with 4-year bachelor degree in “Applied Mathemathics and Informatics”.I have the option to move to “Computer and Software Engineering” and the questions i have is:

1.Which one will be more helpful if i want to get into game development?Or to put it in other words if a clone of me finished one degree and i finished the other, which one of us will be more prepared for game development?

2.Why?

Thanks in advance to everyone helping me decide and i’m sorry if this is the wrong place posting this.

I think you might be interested in this thread

Between the two named courses, the latter is almost certainly the better option - the former degree isn’t relevant unless you want to specifically do something like analyse game economies.

Computer Software Engineering. It will probably be the over all better choice even if you do not end up working in the game industry.

Why? It is about making software. The other one is not.

Also consider what you want to do, Computer Software Engineering will only help you if you want to do programming. Find out what job in game development you like best and see if there’s a degree that focuses on that. Don’t waste your time unless it’s primarily focused on what you want to learn.

I learned more from a c++ teaching app on my phone than I did in computer science programming courses at my university. Others have said the curriculum and ways of teaching coding at traditional colleges is not good compared to the paces you can set and how fast you can learn from “out of the box” thinkers that design improved course material online. Not to mention all the non programming logic and material/tests about hardware you will be stressed to pass all the time which dont even apply to game design with those degrees…

Maybe save your money and if you really need to- get a 2 year vocational degree in a guaranteed faster income field that you can work sort of part time and still earn a decent income… then have enough time learning game design way faster on your own online!

Well my primary interests are - programming, AI and level desing. Im looking for a fundamental all around degree like CS, but since the university doesn’t have that i have to chose between these two (which by all means aren’t bad at all).And the second degree is “Computer Engineering and Software Engineering” to avoid confusion.

Thanks for the input :slight_smile:

I agree but i don’t have a choice, i have to chose one. Also alot of people keep saying that a solid CS degree is better choice than alot of the Game Dev/Desing degrees out there. Anyway i too learned programming on my own and everything else online and i think its better that way, but i need the structure a university gives me.

It’s insane, but I still, after over a decade in the IT industry, see job adverts asking for candidates with a certain result in a computer-related degree.

My degree is in English Literature.:rolleyes:

+1… Video games are an art form not a science. Seriously, the school of life is a better guide. Making a Video game is so inter-disciplinary, you can approach it from all sorts of angles. Where are your strengths? That’s the key question. For example: coding or digital art, which do you prefer, which are you better at?.. And if necessary are you prepared to move to find work? If you cloned yourself dozens of times, and each took a different path, it would be interesting to see who succeeded and which path worked out…

Interesting, which app is it?

lmao was wondering the same thing,

I think a degree si always great because it will help you with future jobs. if you work int he game industry for a year or two and absolutely loathe it you will have a degree to fall back on. a lot of people want to see that paper and won’t talk to you unless you have it.

Well it’s not that I don’t believe him, I genuinely want to know because I am interested in learning C++. I myself am a strong advocate of self-learning, I recently dropped out of high-school because I wasn’t learning anything that I didn’t already know, and didn’t feel the challenge. I have learned far more in the past 3 months on my own than I have in the past 2 years in high-school.

I’ve been working with games for a while now, and I don’t even have a degree.

A degree doesn’t necessarily matter, and for games it matters more that you know how to do the specific job you’re going to do. So if you want to develop UE4 games as a programmer you need to be really good at C++, and spending time learning other stuff will waste time that you could spend becoming better at C++
On the art side, they teach you a little bit of everything and you become good at nothing.

College can open doors. Those doors may lead to career progression, which in turn may bring lucrative work and ultimately sufficient funds to start your own studio. But what if you already have raw confidence and talent? Then college may actually hold you back. Just look at all the tech CEO’s that are dropouts! Also, if you choose the college route, but you don’t fit the mold (corporate culture etc), then you may find the work soul destroying.

One of the challenges we all face is getting funding. Its not easy, but without it, how can anybody move forward… Just this month a Rama connected space game didn’t meet its funding target, whereas a project that’s heavy on art exceeded its goals… A degree may help with this, but it will never be a replacement for outright talent or just plain luck. At the end of the day, talent, passion and perseverance really counts versus all the **** that’s thrown at you at college.

To those of you without a degree or other educational achievements, there are things more important than those.

Experience trumps all. Once you build up your CV, that will get you into job interviews.

If you don’t have experience, you need to get yourself a portfolio. If you are art-based, show off what you can do online, whether it is in Maya, or pencil.

If you are a programmer, you need to get yourself a GitHub account.

Yes, there will always be employers who want to go the old fashioned route, but most, in my experience, will be interested in a person that show they are passionate about this sort of thing, by actually doing it in their spare time.

Experience is most useful but the competition is very rough, so every bit adds to your final score. If you have awesome abilities and next to you is a other candidate that is awesome too but has a degree he might have more points in the match. I do not think that doing a degree is a waste, it is though if you only invest time into the degree and not some extra stuff. As Jezcentral said: get quality stuff done and get noticed.

Oh yeah, I don’t mean that the degree is worthless (before you hit 30, anyway :slight_smile: ). Plus, Uni is great fun. Go if you can. :slight_smile:

I already hit that mark :D, good I was done with Uni long ago hahaha (apart from that PhD which will be in-progress for a very long time :D).