AI content should have its own SEPARATE section, and this is why:

General Feedback & Requests
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I knew things were really bad on the FAB moderation side of things, but man things are dire. I won’t enter in any other known issues, this thread is about AI flooding.

There are a whole lot of sellers that are just flooding the market daily with AI-generated junk, not only burying any serious sellers, but raising serious questions about copyright infringement and IP theft like pointed out in Are you doing anything about all the theft and copyright infringment. This is not new to anyone who’s constantly complaining about the current, sad state that FAB finds itself in. This hasn’t started yesterday, but rather day 1. We also know that AI generated stuff won’t go anywhere, Epic has been pushing for AI inclusion since the Artstation slop and artists just should accept that and move on. AI is just a tool which SHOULD be researched on and made use of, but not like that.

The problem starts when actual professionals have to dispute the same spot with them. There are sellers that are pushing for hundreds of products into every single section, outshadowing pretty much everyone that intends to make a genuine effort in creating a store here with sheer flood.

Just for the sake of proving my point, this SINGLE seller might have over HUNDREDS of AI products in several sections of the marketplace (most of them mislabeled (!!!)). There are some in Audio, some in 3D models, some in materials and so on. There is no point in me sharing each artwork that falls into that, check out for yourself.
https://www.fab.com/sellers/Mathew81

The audio section is flooded with AI. The 2D section is flooded with AI. Materials, textures […] How long until everything here gets clogged with low-quality, low-effort AI generated content? What exactly stops someone from creating a script that uploads thousands of Midjourney’s generated artwork a day here?

This thread is my plead for a stricter policing of AI-generated content and most of all, have all that stuff on their own, AI-labeled section. Why do WE (both customers and sellers) need to filter all the time the AI generated junk when you could just gather everything and place them at the same spot and remove the mislabeled products? Please, purge that storewide and keep them at the corner that they are supposed to be in.

@Unreal_Josh and staff, we really want FAB to be a massive hit, so please take our requests and feedbacks to the heart and with some sense of urgency. The more time passes, the harder it’ll be for we to have a cleaner, professional marketplace.

I’ve tried to put my indignation with this current state into words the best I could. I hope I’m not the only one thinking about it that way.

Thanks,
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I think this has already long passed, the market is unusable.

Here’s a quick example of how AI has ruined the market: I did an example search using the keyword “Fruit” and nothing else. Here are the results:

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And now, this is how much of this page is AI generated garbage spamming up the store:

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And these are only the ones marked as Using AI, there are a lot of assets that are clearly AI generated but that have chosen to pretend they’re real art and not turn on the AI Flag. More than half are AI slop.

On top of that, we see the exact same asset also appearing twice here (Low Poly Fruits).

Who can use this??? What are we supposed to do with this market???

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The whole thing is just unfair and unethical. We who are working on a piece of work sometimes for months, trying to meet the expectation of the audit team, we are being rejected because accidentally naming a material instance M_ instead of MI_ , or similar tiny ting. We lose visibility to those who flooding the market with AI materials without knowing what sRGB, openGL/DirectX normals, power of two, PBR means. They don’t even bother with the AI checkbox. And this is just the materials, why models with baked shadow allowed? Is this PBR from now?
The whole market is looks like a store where the shelves are flooded with trash and stolen goods. Who want to buy anything in a store like this? But in the end the AI group will leave the market because there will be no buyers(no one to scam) and everybody will lose regular vendors, buyers, and the reputation of Epic.

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Does anyone remember if the AI was discussed in the live broadcast at the end of last year? If so, what was EPIC’s response?

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I completely agree with the points raised regarding the growing issue on Fab. As a seller on this platform, I’ve also noticed the surge in low-quality, AI-generated content and copyright-infringing products that seem to get approved without proper review.

It’s becoming increasingly difficult for genuine creators to have their work stand out in an environment where AI-generated “content garbage” is allowed to flood the marketplace. This devalues the efforts of those of us who invest time and creativity into our products, and frankly, it’s disheartening.

AI can be a powerful tool when used responsibly, but without stronger moderation, the platform risks losing its integrity. The unchecked approval of potentially harmful or infringing content not only affects creators but also puts Fab’s reputation on the line.

I hope Fab seriously considers tightening content review processes and ensuring that sellers who contribute quality products are given a fair platform to showcase their work. It’s essential to protect the community that values creativity and originality.

(Korean > English Google translator)

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Never seen a single response from Epic about the ‘AI’ issue ever (nothing).
So given up asking tbh… But if the secret to happiness is low expectations…
Then the best we can hope for is a filter that just blocks it all out some day. :rofl:

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I don’t think that they’ve dove into the specifics aside from mentioning that they got an lot of pushback about fab. And then they’ve just turned the topic to web design

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Yep.

I think A.I shouldn’t be shown by default. You should have to adjust your search to require A.I stuff to be shown.
Of course a completely separate section for A.I would be the answer.

I create models and in my category I have not only seen A.I models appearing, but they are at the very top of the search, meaning you have to scroll on to find mine, among more A.I.
Mine are created from scratch with much care and attention, unlike the A.I generated models that have a sludge like topology wrapped in that typical A.I generated look, that all A.I seems to have, and we can all spot a mile off.
But if that’s the look and topology you’re after…

It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

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I think part of the issue is also that these AI sellers are not honest people. Many of them are intentionally leaving the AI flag off because they don’t want their content to be hidden.

There’s a benefit to lying: you get more visibility. So relying on people to be honest here just doesn’t work, there are real incentives for lying about whether your content is AI-generated or not.

A limit on the number of items you can list per month (maybe 1-2 per month) would solve part of this issue. Someone being able to list 1,000 assets in a month is insane. There’s no way that these can be legitimate.

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I loved this idea.

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There’s a corporate saying: ‘No one ever got fired for buying IBM’.
Its kinda the same with AI… No one ever gets fired for pushing AI.
Even if us devs hate it, it stays, just in case any returns are mega!
As so many CEO’s just see AI as a kind-of ‘free-money gold-rush’.

But…

Look at how AI is doing atm. Lots of money being thrown around.
But the costs are spiraling, so hey another possible dotcom crash…

This raises an interesting question overall… Who is behind all of this AI junk??? Its a bit of an awkward question maybe. Wonder how many of these low-hanging-fruit AI sellers are tied to the dark web. You know: bots / botnets… Operated by OCG / Nation-State hackers to help fund criminal lifestyles or dodgy nuke programs and so on… Think about it… How many of these sellers are really selling anything? But hey, sometimes you don’t need to. Just having a storefront where you can claim sales that never happened lets you ‘wash’ money, right? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Maybe some of these sellers are just passive income hunters too, following many Tiktok influencers that promise mega passive income, so YOU TOO can ‘FIRE’ today… Either way, the ultimate thorny question is, how many of these AI sellers are actually generating revenue for Epic? Is Epic just playing the high-seller count / low-volume sales game… Is that why they never ever publicly comment on any of this??? :thinking:

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First, thank you for your feedback - it helps us make Fab better for the entire community.

We’re currently working to make search and filters more usable so that you can find the type of content you’re looking for without having to repeatedly scroll and dig for content. This includes the ability to save specific filters so that you don’t have to turn them on for each search, including the “Created with AI” filter that’s already available.

All products created with AI are required to be tagged as “Created with AI”. If you see a product where the publisher hasn’t accurately stated that their product was created with AI please contact Fab support, and we will contact the publisher.

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Firstly, thank you for showing up @justin-274

But the things you listed doesn’t really solve any of the main issues, at all.

AI is flooding the market in a unprecedented way, there are several mislabeled products (both in the wrong category and labeled as not AI), sellers uploading hundreds of low-quality AI generated products literally killing everyone who is a legit seller.

In my point of view, a slap on the wrist doesn’t cut it. They know what they are doing. If there is close to no QA taking care of the individual products review and gatekeeping them, at least leave AI stuff hidden by default, move them into a “AI” labeled content into their own section and set a severe rule for infringement of those who just keep doing it regardless of the warnings.

As @Krabworks said, many of them are not good people and are well aware of what they are doing.

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Good point.

What I don’t get is that it is said Fab are using A.I to approve assets of all descriptions, but be that the case or not, I’m more than sure that Fab could train A.I to recognise A.I content/assets and deal with them “correctly”.

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@justin-274

I wish that helped but I have already done this, and no they won’t. FAB support creates a circular loop where they just direct us here to the forums, and then you on the forums direct us back to FAB support. Neither of you are actually taking action.

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This problem of FAB support ignoring reports of product reports of sellers that ignore the AI rules was already raised weeks ago when FAB support did the exact same thing, and Forum staff apologized, but nothing has changed.

This DOESNT WORK. You need HUNANS doing review of new listings.

This strategy of letting everything through and hoping someone else will deal with problem listings later isn’t ok.

Whoever is responsible for FABs listing review process needs an earful so that actual change can occur. Who at Epic needs to hear this so that a functional market can exist again?

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@Krabworks Apologies, we are currently updating our flows for how this type of content is reported and routed. I have followed up with you directly via email, and have passed the information along to the team to make sure these are routed properly in the future.

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Thanks for this follow-up Tyler. :+1: We all appreciate it. Hopefully this means we will see some actual action taken on AI creators who intentionally avoid flagging their content as AI.

As you can probably tell from the comments, the community is absolutely exasperated with the state of FAB on AI flooding & IP Theft.

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We have eyes and ears. Everyone, including the administrators, has the ability and intelligence to suspect when content submitted has been made by AI.

Sellers are creating content with AI but falsely checking the option that it wasn’t AI-generated, deceiving buyers, and this is already happening. However, Fab is ignoring these issues and approving products indiscriminately. In other words, the No AI filter and category on the product list are not functioning as intended and are meaningless.

AI-generated content should not be displayed by default in the store!!!

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