Toon shading model

[TheCatSidhe]

I’m getting " Exception in AutomationScripts.Automation: Stage Failed. Missing receipt ‘UE4Game-Win64-Development.target.xml’ " when I try to launch my test game :\ . Any clue why?

[Arnage]

@MichaelEmouse;418718

If it’s available on GitHub, would it be possible to make it available for free on the marketplace? It seems really nice and making it available on the marketplace will assurance a lot more exposure and ease of access than just through GitHub.

If that was possible I would have submitted it to the marketplace in the first place. However, the marketplace only supports plugins for code changes and due to the way shading models are implemented they can’t be turned into plugins. The reason it is on github is to allow Epic to integrate it into the main branch, if they wish to do so, and for adventurous users to be able to try it out and provide feedback. It is not intended to be used in production, as it is not a very ideal workflow, as you have noticed.

@MichaelEmouse;418718

I’m a complete noob at integrating GitHub files into UE4. I can follow the link to GitHub but have no idea what to click on. I downloaded something called "UnrealEngine-4.10-toon but I’m not sure what to do from that point on. Will erase and replace the UE4 4.10 I downloaded from Epic?

What you downloaded is only the source code. You’ll have to compile before you can do anything with it. You can keep build separate from your regular build though and don’t need to overwrite anything

@MichaelEmouse;418718

Would shader allow me to use non-toon materials for some objects in a scene and toon materials for other objects in the same scene? Like, say, a toon gun with an ordinary PBR shader for the character holding the gun?

Yes, you can mix and match them with any other kind of materials.

[anonymous_user_172f04a4]

Thank you for your answers. I hope Epic takes up your work.

[Peude]

can you upload at Mega.co.nz “4.10 branch
https://github.com/marynate/UnrealEngine/tree/4.10-toon” Thanks because there something wrong from GitHub I can’t download …Thanks

[jcdied4me (Jeff C)]

Hey, looks like your work was broadcast live, 2 hrs ago, on the Unreal Engine’s live twitch stream. Does mean they are taking seriously now? Are they planning to fully integrate and support your efforts in the next build?

[SememeS]

@Peude;419118

can you upload at Mega.co.nz “4.10 branch
https://github.com/marynate/UnrealEngine/tree/4.10-toon” Thanks because there something wrong from GitHub I can’t download …Thanks

What are the problems you’re getting with GitHub?
Maybe someone can help.

Do you have a github account? (*It’s free)
You’ll need to have a github account to access otherwise you’ll get a 404 because UE is private.

[cridia]

By the way, what are the reasons why Epic is not adding to the engine? I would think that a free shading model (that seemingly does great work; sorry, I haven’t tested it yet) that is in high demand would be added in a heartbeat.

Still problems with integrating it into the main branch?

[Arnage]

@jcdied4me;419152

Hey, looks like your work was broadcast live, 2 hrs ago, on the Unreal Engine’s live twitch stream. Does mean they are taking seriously now? Are they planning to fully integrate and support your efforts in the next build?

Cool, I wish I had known in advance so I could be in the chat and ask them the same questions you are asking

[Netrve]

@Peude;419118

can you upload at Mega.co.nz “4.10 branch
https://github.com/marynate/UnrealEngine/tree/4.10-toon” Thanks because there something wrong from GitHub I can’t download …Thanks

That would imply him uploading the source, which is not permitted. I guess you made a mistake somwhere, check if you set up your Github account correctly, connected it to your UnrealEngine Account and then try again.

[SememeS]

Ok, just saw the livestream. The vid was published on today.

here’s the link at time they talk about it

It was part of the community spotlights

Hmm, I’m confused by the way they presented … they talked about it as a plugin, not as a pull request.

EDIT It’s getting some extra attention though so that’s cool , congrats hope will help get your hard work in]

[_cDub]

@alwei;406398

I got the outline shader in the link of the following thread.
Trying to make Toon Shader Material on UE4 - World Creation - Epic Developer Community Forums

I was actually able to achieve result in only these toon shaders and outline shader.
By another in the post process effect, we have adjusted a lot in color grading.

Is the link you were talking about? http://ogimafu.blogspot.com/2015/04/ue4.html
Did you use just one method, or all of them combined?

Edit: never mind, i see it. All of them need to be used together to get the full effect.
I’m not sure how the materials functions he made are supposed to be used in the final material though.

[anonymous_user_8e00a225]

@Arnage;378155

It’s submitted, please try it out and post pretty pictures and/or feedback. You can find the Pull Request here:

https://github.com/EpicGames/UnrealEngine/pull/1552
Make sure you are logged into github with the account linked to your unreal engine account or you will get a 404 error!

Note: to allow for various half toony styles, materials with shading model will default to having regular indirect lighting and reflections. To create a completely flat material, make the material AO black and add your flat shadow color to the emissive channel.

Note number two: For some reason material AO does not block screen space reflections. As a result you might get inappropriate reflections when using the previous technique. Simply raise the base roughness to get rid of them or turn off SSR altogether if you don’t need it anyway. I did not change behaviour as all shading models handle SSR way. If anyone from Epic reads : I’d like to know why you chose over blocking SSR with material AO, which seems more logical to me.

-I AM logged onto the Github account and I still get an error. Is outdated? BTW your toon shader is the coolest thing I´ve ever seen!! Seriously!

[Arnage]

@SememeS;419658

Ok, just saw the livestream. The vid was published on today.

here’s the link at time they talk about it

It was part of the community spotlights

Hmm, I’m confused by the way they presented … they talked about it as a plugin, not as a pull request.

EDIT It’s getting some extra attention though so that’s cool , congrats hope will help get your hard work in]

They didn’t seem to understand it indeed. Though hopefully someone who can decide on including it finally notices it and can give some feedback whether they are considering it or not.

@sirdavid32;419750

-I AM logged onto the Github account and I still get an error. Is outdated? BTW your toon shader is the coolest thing I´ve ever seen!! Seriously!

That link is still the way to go. Are you able to download the regular UE4 source? If not then you might want to check if your accounts are properly linked. As Dakraid said it is against the UE4 license to post the source code on another host, so you’ll have to try to get your github account to work.

[anonymous_user_f1aa296f]

We decided to go with your shader for our game! Here is our character:

Thank you so much!!

[hippowombat]

is really incredible Any chance 'll ever be included in UE4 by default?

[cridia]

Awesome, just awesome. I finally got around using the toon shader a little and it works like a charm. I have to admit that the three settings don’t seem obvious at first, but once I found your descriptions in thread, it all made sense and I was able to use it extremely quickly. I am completely gonna love shading model.

I only have one question. Is there a way to control the shape of the steps? Right now there’s a blend for the smoothness of the lines, but I was wondering whether it was possible to have, say, the line depend on a texture (so you can get jaggy lines for instance). Even just a way to get that stepsize data to manipulate would be awesome. Just curious.

[KingKrouch]

@;421970

Awesome, just awesome. I finally got around using the toon shader a little and it works like a charm. I have to admit that the three settings don’t seem obvious at first, but once I found your descriptions in thread, it all made sense and I was able to use it extremely quickly. I am completely gonna love shading model.

I only have one question. Is there a way to control the shape of the steps? Right now there’s a blend for the smoothness of the lines, but I was wondering whether it was possible to have, say, the line depend on a texture (so you can get jaggy lines for instance). Even just a way to get that stepsize data to manipulate would be awesome. Just curious.

I think that adding support for tooncurves like the picture below would be great aswell.

[mserena]

@;421970

…I only have one question. Is there a way to control the shape of the steps? Right now there’s a blend for the smoothness of the lines, but I was wondering whether it was possible to have, say, the line depend on a texture (so you can get jaggy lines for instance). Even just a way to get that stepsize data to manipulate would be awesome. Just curious.

you can apply a normal map to perturb the normals

[Philippe_St-Amand]

Is there any hope there could be plugin support for material shaders and compute shaders in the future, with a nice simple “create new shader” wizard and all that?

Your toon shader looks so amazing and UE4’s lack of proper custom shader support is so frustrating. Aahhh!

I’d actually rather have as a plugin than integrated into the engine, because the biggest problem here is that UE4 doesn’t let us simply create a new material shader or a new compute shader to suit our needs (It doesn’t make it easy, at least). feels so extremely limiting that I’d rather stick with Unity until essential feature is fixed. Having the toon shader only solves the problem for that specific use case, but not for other use cases of wanting to write your own shaders.

[cridia]

He already mentioned that due to him having to change bits in the source code to have shading model work, it was next to impossible to turn it into a plugin. I reckon that up to create into something like the custom light feature of UE3, he will probably have to create it from scratch.