I don’t think this is the case, here.
Epic charges the VAT to buyers not to us sellers and then pays the VAT in the different countries accordingly to their rate (I don’t think Epic avoids to pay taxes). Moreover, if the taxes problem in EU was the case, it would apply only to EU residents. We, non EU sellers, won’t be affected.
Also, Epic applies the VAT as Epic and not as the seller. I mean, for example, in my country I don’t have to charge (and then pay it back to the state) the VAT to my customers, because I don’t earn enough for that accordingly to my own country laws, but Epic has to charge the VAT to buyers when they sell my products even in my country because they have to pay the VAT accordingly to the same law that frees me from doing it.
So, it should be something else imho.
However, the reasons of the EU are not the topic in this thread. Here someone asked for help because they don’t succeed to verify their address.
Considering their personal situation, the Non-Trader alternative - that Epic (and the EU) offers - can be a solution in this particular case imho.
Hi @ExS_PLAYer . Your document does not need to be in English. Your document has to state your name in the same script that you used when you signed up for Fab, i.e., if the name you provided to Fab at signup was written in Latin characters, the document you use for verification should show your name in Latin characters. If your document uses a different script than the name you provided when signing up for Fab, please contact support to reset your trader information so that you can restart the process.
I’m not sure whether that’s the cause of the troubles you’re encountering, but you can find more info here about the whole process.
Thank you for your guidance here. Your answers spared me months of application time—your logical, detail-oriented approach to the website’s terms is a rare and beautiful quality, like a fresh bouquet.
I am not convinced, FAB now collects VAT and Taxes for any country in the World. As A seller, declaring myself a Trader, can also mean I can claim the VAT Exempt status if I am VAT registered. Or require a VAT statement, so I can claim back any VAT charges. However, European Laws state that in public selling places, VAT and ANY Taxes must be included in the selling price, whereas in the US it does not. That is why I see the Tax deducted from my sell value, and another when it is VAT. But this is not true for all sales, just around 15%.
I have already supplied Epic with a WEN-8 form that means they are not to deduct any local taxes from my selling price, based upon my Personal and Business sales. FAB are choosing to ignore this like we are Americans.
They deduct Taxes, I only hope that they actually pay in those Taxes, or I/We can still become liable unless FAB supply a Tax Deductions Certificate/Statement. I have yet to see one.
Unity doesn’t deduct any Taxes of any kind, if you provided them with a WEN-8 declaration.
When you look at your sale reports you will see that the VAT is applied separately from the price that you have chosen for your product.
If you have bought a product from Fab, you have surely noticed that at checkout the VAT is added to the price (which is the price the seller has chosen) and not subtracted from it.
So, the price (P) that the seller chooses is without VAT, Epic applies the VAT (or other taxes) to the customer who pays P+VAT to Epic. Epic pays back the seller only P - Epic processing fee (12%).
All the VAT and taxes are managed by Epic, not by us sellers.
The only thing Fab does wrong at the moment (while the old Marketplace was doing it right) is that it doesn’t show directly the price including taxes but applies taxes at checkout. This is normal in USA, but incorrect in almost all other countries.
In conclusion, what you see deducted from your sales is not the VAT, it’s the 12% that you have to pay at Epic for their Marketplace service.
VAT Laws say it must be included in the total selling price, not added over and above the published price, like American Sales taxes are. Unless, the purchaser is VAT registered and has an exemption certificate which is used so the overseas seller doesn’t collect the VAT. In addition, the business must also be registered as a Trader. The seller can display VAT and Non-VAT prices, but not add VAT on when the buyer arrives at the till. What difference would be, if the Outlet is a Wholesalers, selling business to business.
The alternative method is for the seller (FAB) to issue a VAT receipt with every sale, so the buyer (a Inland Revenue /Customs and Exercise Registered Organisation or Company) can, if applicable, claim back the VAT.
