Thanks for the info. i didn’t set up the interface in Vstudio but now it feels more like the stuff im’ used to!
i have been poking around some with the chat stuff and think i got it isolated in a project all by itself, well, with the login stuff also of course.
For the launcher, i am 100% sure that it is not a adress failure as i changed nothing in either textfiles in going from a failure upload to succesful! just providing my own hash.xml file