Hey folks!
I was intrigues by VR for a while, but now I’m pretty sure that VR is solid and it would to stupid not to have a dev kit for testing and etc.
However how do I get full VR dev kit?
I tried to get Vive, but it’s too late for any application, I tried to get Oculus - it’s only helmet, without any joysticks
Sooo how do I get started?
Hey Constructive Illusions where did you get that info on the Vive announcement? I’m working on a VR game and would love to switch over to the vive headset and ditch these hydras 
zeOrb, right now your only choice is to get an Oculus DK2 and a Hydra, if you really want to start immediately.
I doubt you can get a Vive currently, even from Ebay. Valve is giving out the dev kits for free, probably with some kind of contract preventing resale. But really, who would want to sell a Vive right now? 
Alternatively you can wait a few more months for the consumer release.
Oh, what a bummer. Maybe next time event will VR. I hope this year at least <_<
zeOrb, right now your only choice is to get an Oculus DK2 and a Hydra, if you really want to start immediately.
I doubt you can get a Vive currently, even from Ebay. Valve is giving out the dev kits for free, probably with some kind of contract preventing resale. But really, who would want to sell a Vive right now?
Alternatively you can wait a few more months for the consumer release.
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Oculus DK2 and Hydra looks like very expensive and outdated hack(I mean Razer is abandoned now and devs are doing something new afaik) 
If only you could get dk2 with some dev version of oculus touch!
Yeah, I think no better solution than spying on Vive and Oculus announcements
If you want to prototype touch/lighthouse like games now the best bet is to get a Hydra or 2x PSMove and a DK2. Both community plugins support the Motion Controller abstraction which means you can re-use your code for when you graduate to full Vive/Touch experiences.
There is going to be an HTC press conference this Wednesday.
Why you want to waste money on that now.
Prices will drop aburdly after Vr hype is gone. No need to pay for that now… If for development, you always port later if game goes well on Pc first.
:rolleyes:
Could happen. But I wouldn’t count on that. Did iPhone prices drop?
Are you seriously comparing those headsets to digital cell phones? lol
What vr headsets are now, they’re pretty much like what cellphones were back in the 90s:
And yes, they got much cheaper. First mobile phones were ranging around $3k.
I’m talking about this; you are at the beginning of the red area. No need to worry much about VR now since the ones able to rush the platform for profits are already doing it since 2~3 years ago.
If you want to adopt now because you want to be part of the early rush, innovators came before you and your products already 2 years ago.
Oculos, the first one from Kickstarter has been around for a while.
I don’t think expecting a price drop comparable to the mobile phone industry is reasonable. The VR headsets launching next year are expected to cost around $400-$500. I doubt you will ever see a good headset for $200. Definitely not within the next 5 years. Even the new GearVR is $100 that you can’t actually use without a $500 phone.
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make with the adaption plot. The iPhone still costs roughly the same as it did almost a decade ago.
On an unrelated note, teenage boys and 20 years old girls are rarely the “innovators” and early adapters of technology. It’s the 25 years old single guys with lots of disposable income.
What I’m saying is, the “chasm” **always **happens; And it didn’t happen to VR yet. If it goes past the abyss I buy mine as well…
If it can’t survive that period, it is going to be just another kinect / PS Move. A gimmick.
This is a perfectly reasonable approach to new technology. I agree that the Kinect was more a gimmick than anything else. I’ve also been burned in the past being an early adopter (looking at you, Leap Motion). But I’m pretty confident that VR is not just another gimmick. I am not a time traveller though, so we’ll see I guess… 
Thing is, good VR is more than imitating an IMAX 3D screen. For now VR headsets are nothing more than a glorified version of 3D glasses. VR should mean total immersion, you should be able to walk and move inside this world, using a 3D headset with a pair of PS moves or a gamepad is not good VR… it’s just a gimmick.
The only people that think VR is a gimmick are people that haven’t tried VR yet and cardboard doesn’t count.
VR is more than just a new display device. If that’s all you think it is, then you’re doing it wrong. VR is a paradigm shift in designing experiences to be as immersive as possible, using every tool at our disposal.
Then I suppose that Playstation VR or DK2 aren’t VR.
VR as a definition, yes. Current VR, no.
Show me a HMD with at least 4K resolution, which is able to go at higher hz without resorting to timewarp/reprojection, and that has found a solution to fix all the “small” issues like screen door effect, etc. And that’s the “basic” part, I’m not going into the wireless talk…
Then move into the body capture, things like STEM or leap motion tech is cool, but would you call that a paradigm shift? total immersion? Have you tried any Vive demo and after the initial thought of coolness did you noticed how disconnected you felt from your body when trying to touch or push anything in the VR world?
I think VR has a great future, it always had, and these days looks like we have a lot of companies working on it, which is good, but lets get real, we’re still years away from VR being a paradigm shift.
^Try CV1 or Vive
Don’t waste your money yet, there’s no need to get any VR right now.
Yeah I think it’s wiser to wait some months, the comercial release is almost here.
Anyway if you don’t mind paying money for obsolete hardware, best options are to find a DK2 + hydra in ebay or similar, or buy razer osvr HDK and any motion controller you can find (or use something like leap motion, although the custom plate for the HDK is not currently available you can use tape or velcro to attach it).
I’ve been working with wiimotes but the bluetooth connection is incredible unreliable and problematic. I would love to switch to stem or similar SOON.
So if you are low on the money, just wait and develop other parts of your game. Keep in mind how your controls will be in the future using a HMD and controllers and you should be safe.