I think you’re wrong there, Google just recently bought Boston Dynamics, therefore they are no longer working for DARPA.
Who taught you how to walk, how to speaking in your first childhood? Who taught you how to write your own name. Who taught you reading books, how to write their own ideas in a clear, organized manner? Where did you have spent most of your life? In the army? Who are the people making art, producing almost all the things that you are using? Who are the people who makes a better and innovating world? They are people like you, regardless of nationality, religion, ethnicity, language, uniform, or any other imposed fantasy.
Greetings;)
What exactly is the problem here?
It is a tool/sdk, neutral by definition and it can be used for any purpose. Including military.
Unreal being used for military training may result in less soldiers being killed.
Also, last time I checked, military combat rules are significantly stricter than average “kill them all” shooter, because laws of war is a thing. (IIRC, for example - shooting combatant that dropped weapon and raised hands to surrender -> martial court, etc).
tell me again about this “rules” and how great is the military please.
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New directives for TACAIR-Soar:)
“A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.” Isaac Asimov’s ]
By a russian author: Isaac Asimov’s “Three Laws of Robotics”
You can learn about them yourself, google “geneva conventions” and “laws of war”.
Like it or not, military is part of life, and even though I am not a fan of the military myself, there’s nothing wrong with collaborating with it.
If you’re a USA citizen don’t like behavior of USA military, though, it is something you guys have to deal with yourselves.
While Isaac Asimove was born in russia, he’s american author.
Also, the movie “I, robot” presented a nice way to use those three laws against humanity.
The implication is that if supporting the military is an ethical no-no, getting rid of it would be the right thing to do. Perhaps true, but we don’t live in that fantasy world.
As the video posted by Oul pointed out, we are currently in the most peaceful time since at least the industrial revolution, if not in all of history. The military dominance of the United States is the sole driving factor keeping us in that period and I don’t want to see that boat rocked.
Humanity needs a couple hundred more years in this stable period to grow out of our old ways. In order to maintain that stability, the US and it’s allies have to stay on top. I don’t think the Russian and Chinese alternatives will be all that good for the world by comparison.
Umm, no.
You might want to keep in mind that people outside of USA perceive the situation very differently. However, that’s completely different discussion not suitable for this forum in general.
In any case, there’s nothing wrong in American company collaborating with American military.
But they are machines naturally (artificialy), directives are imposed by someone really intelligent (concious). And decisions are taken based on them. “Keep the information in secret.”, but to “Err Is Human”, as well as “forgive their trespasses”.
From 2001: A Space Odyssey (film). Directed by Stanley Kubrick. Written by Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke, both american citizens
“Dr. Chandra discovers that HAL’s crisis was caused by a programming contradiction: he was constructed for “the accurate processing of information without distortion or concealment”, yet his orders, directly from Dr. Heywood Floyd at the National Council on Astronautics, required him to keep the discovery of the Monolith TMA-1 a secret for reasons of national security. This contradiction created a “Hofstadter-Moebius loop”, reducing HAL to paranoia. Therefore, HAL made the decision to kill the crew, thereby allowing him to obey both his hardwired instructions to report data truthfully and in full, and his orders to keep the monolith a secret. In essence: if the crew were dead, he would no longer have to keep the information secret.” source]
“Kubrick obtained lenses developed by Zeiss for NASA, to film scenes under natural candlelight.”
Ok, gotta admit i dont get the idea behind that; teaching people stuff (writing, etc) doesnt have much to do with science in that context; Of course you need your basics to start inventing, but, believe me or not, soldiers are actually able to read and write too 
Nope, but neither in any science lab or engineering company
So you are practically saying that soldiers cant to art? I mean, yeah many idiots there, but thats the same outside of the army.
Probably mostly chinese workers in factories which have minimal payment and enough work hours a day so they are not even trying to think about innovation.
And of course, the people that invent stuff are mostly non-military guys. But that doesnt mean that they dont do the science FOR the military, which is paying quite a lot of money for research in different companies.
Cheers,
Sounds a bit paradoxically insane:
“War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn to live together in peace by killing each other’s children.” ― Jimmy Carter, The Nobel Peace Prize Lecture (39th President of the United States)
War = eugenics; economic interests; expropriation, colonization and globalization.
And yourself? Could you don’t be your own laboratory and company? You are a laboratory and a company. Certainly.
The thing that bothers me is that it seems completely normal nowadays to have the military deeply intertwined with the (civilian) industry - and almost nobody seems to care. Why? Because we are so used to it already?
And honestly: Why needs the military, with an annual multi-100-billion budget, to license a (semi open-source) game engine? They should have enough money and manpower to build one themselves.
That reminds me. Apparently there is a guy named Bob Ross. Teaches people to draw.https://youtube.com/watch?v=pw5ETGiiBRg
He’s ex-military. 20 years in USA air force, first seargeant.
That’s assignment operator, not equality comp… err…
I mean, I don’t quite see the logic here.
Are you USA citizen? In that case it happens in your country but not in mine and your statement doesn’t really apply to the rest of the world. I think there should be some options available in order to let your government know about your opinion, but I highly doubt that this is the right place for that kind of thing.
Because using off-the-shelf solution is cheaper than producing your own. And there’s no real reason to produce your own tool, when there’s something that can already do the job. It is usual programming/development thing - “don’t reinvent the wheel”. Do you remember for how many years Unreal Engine has been in development?
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ahh programmer humor ;D
If we are about to go down this philosophical road, well, i will defend myself and my kid anytime against everything. So, i am as much a soldier as a laboratory.
Well, we are used to it. Actually since hundreds / thousands of years. 500 years ago a weaponsmith made things for farmers and “civilian” horses, as well as swords and shields. Military was always part of mankind, and will be in future. I just dont believe in a future like Star Trek where everyone on earth lives in peace 
Yep, they could build it themselves, sinking a million or two. Its from the military budget anyways…oh, wait. Its actually the people’s money that they pay through taxes.
Using an existing engine is simply much more cost-efficient, and thats always a reason to not do it yourself (unless you just WANT to do it yourself).
Cheers,
Agreed.
I would suggest to end the discussion here. Everything that needed to be said, has been said, I guess.
For me, this was a very interesting (and, in places, heated) discussion on a pretty unusual topic for a game engine forum. Glad so many joined.
To be continued…? 
Sure thing.
Have a good day ^_^.