CREATORS SPAMMING MAPS TO APPEAR IN DISCOVERY

what are you talking about deceive maybe think what your maps perform bad compared to others i would start with the thumbnails

what???

Hello guys, please keep those discussions off-topic. Please keep this only to constructive discussions - let’s not spam here.

This is not true, your maps in Fall Guys or other discoveries keep 60% of the space. This should never happen and you are spamming & abusing the system that is against the rules.

Sure, never said you copied this map or so, please read cerfully my message. I referenced you as a UEFN/Creative 1.0 creator that used to work well in the ecosystem, but now you changed - and you keep spamming maps - destroying the ecosystem.

Regarding this - I am sure by all means that you and Smalczyk are working together (or in more than “two people”) to build those spam maps - copying one map to another (including titles, thumbnails and descriptions) across all your accounts.

I am aware that Smalczyk is not you account and this is the account of a Polish YouTuber (your friend) - that is working with you to distribute those maps. I wouldn’t say otherwise if I didn’t have proof that I shared all above.

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Still funny:
All your screenshots you have is about the other guys. Not me.
And Epic Dev Rel asked me already about the “alt accounts” few months ago. They know them all. And none of your mentioned is owned by me =)

So im fine.

5 accounts with 5 of the same promo/map in the exact same Tab. Obviously the same person with 5 accounts. You can’t write a better joke.

edit: At the exact same time (9PM PST) the same Promo/Titles are being used in 8 more results inside Both the New and Updated discovery tabs. 8 More accounts. So 13 discovery slots with the exact same copy-paste promo and title. Obviously all the same person.

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It looks like some (if not a lot of) creators are turning to spamming, because that’s the only way they can make a decent income. They are planning to use a different platform (that fosters creativity as they put it) as a creative outlet.

Their strategy is to spam here and create engaging experiences elsewhere. I hope this can be addressed soon. New ways to trick the system have been discovered.

New Experience atm (top 5 all spam accounts)

Same people as mentioned

New Updates ATM (8 hours later still in)

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Meanwhile, some creators in the official Discord server are talking like this and the moderation is doing absolutely nothing. For hours now, 3–4 people have been discussing modding and methods to spam or constantly appear in Discovery. I find this shameful and believe it has no place in the official server. If Epic Games could do something to prevent these kinds of individuals from participating in conversations on the official server, it would help stop this type of discussion that encourages others to break the rules. @kalishane_eg

These individuals have no soul / moral and would try any sketchy (even hurt yourself if it was possible) ways to make money. It’s honestly depressing and I’m honestly disgusted.

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The way they’re openly mocking Epic in their own Discord, confident nothing will happen, is laughable at this point. Search for the spam creators. Ban them. Tax ID ban. Machine ID ban. Fortnite ban. Find every creator code tied to their tax ID and ban those too.

I’m baffled Epic is letting people like this roam free while we’re getting sanctioned for far less. Any reputable company would act the moment they became aware of it. Instead, Fortnite is giving them “weeks” while they “work to resolve the problem,” letting these scummy creators ramp up their spam efforts and squeeze out the last few thousands of dollars.

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Do you guys get into discovery? Discovery doesn’t even come in my top3 impression list :smiley:

A simple way to fix creators spamming maps just to get into new and updated is to limit how many maps one creator can promote in the new and updated. If is limited to one map per month(or two weeks) it will force creators to create their best versions of their map. This can also help extending the promotion time in discovery from 20m to 2h per map. And it will also become more popular since there are more polished maps. Right now I don’t know why would any player come to new and updated category since there is a flood of maps of weak value / dupes. A simple token like system that recharge a token every two weeks with a limit of one or two tokens should be sufficient. I don’t say that creators can’t make other maps, just limit their promotion in new and updated so when they get promoted they show their best work.

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All this talk and Epic is “putting developers on it” to “fix” the issue is pure fantasy. Whatever Epic comes up with the spammers will figure out a work around. Software based solutions aren’t going to work. What will work is EYEBALLS on the issue. The algorithm method ain’t working, 50k creators spend hours trying work arounds.

Acquire FREE interns (Epic pay me a 100k a year and I will manage the group :slightly_smiling_face: ). Let them log into maps all day long that appear in Discovery and flag the duplicates. Big game of concentration for the interns. A creator publishes a copy map, strike one. Do it again, strike 2, do it a third time…buh buh now…forever. Have eyeballs watch 24/7, remove spam from Discovery. Have them play games and games they deem as fun get the chance to appear in Homebar. The interns do not know each other, so no collusion, and have no contact with each other.

  • Limit Publishing per creator
  • Institute KYC requirements (Selfie Identification) for creators
  • Remove the buy-in for new creators go back to time based
  • Eyeballs on Discovery
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Hey! What about similarity score which was mentioned on the Epic Fast in Orlando? I thought it is in Q4 on backlog…

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Maybe updated maps should never be added to discover just because they were “updated” and instead the algorithm should reevaluate and use all the existing maps we published. No matter updated yesterday or a year ago.

Give a fair chance, make each multiplayer game filled with players 100% at least once before analysing stats. It is unfair when only 1-2 players were in the match in a game designed for 16. Could we trust this “discovery snapshot”? I think not.

It is so sad games with original and innovative gameplay are shelved and never considered.

It will be even worse when creators are able to purchase spots in discover.

@kalishane_eg

Screens taken 5 minutes ago.

I think majority feels like fixing this ASAP should be a PRIORITY, because it is affecting smaller creators, and legitimate creators who want to bring something new to Fortnite. The system is being abused.

5+ Maps in a WEEK. Not possible unless its another copy/paste spam.

I believe while other solution is being found:

EPIC SHOULD TEMPORARILY ADD A LIMIT OF HOW MANY MAPS CAN BE ADDED PER WEEK (I believe no more than 2). UNTIL ANOTHER SOLUTION IS FOUND.

And for duplicate accounts, make it so you can only have one payment account to that name/bank/ss number or whatever.

It’s killing the platform.

Thanks.

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Top 7 New Experiences”as of 5 minutes ago:

Lets forget how wrong these maps are for this tag.. These people have the system completely gamed to take all 7 top spots wherever they want.

They are simply using earnings to buy more accounts and flood the system.

There is no solution to moderate them or ban them individually that won’t be a headache, the only solution is to STOP allowing multi-account creators. 1 Creator = 1 Account. It is very easy to find a solution for a “studio account” that is more legit, spammers are just imitating themselves as a studio at this point losing all credibility that a studio would have, This is a joke at this point and fncreate needs to limit the evil here and stop playing naive to the issue.

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Agree with him The New and Updated,Top rated, and some other Discovery can be seen Spamming maps.Epic games please fix this issue

Top 7 new experience 5 minutes ago, all spam accounts, 2 accounts same bg profile obviously the same creator, 1 accounts in tab twice, while other is in once

New experiences, like a lot of tabs is completely over run by these style of spam accounts

Other slots, 25 of the 37 slots are from spams (accounts with multiples of the same map on that account)

Edit: 20-30 minute later shot, nearly all spam accounts, all getting 40m+ in these slots.

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