LOL you mean bitc… xD anyway guys please dont drop prices like with 3d modeling was happen. I was talking with friend in Australia out of office people take 600AUS $ for hour working in autocad, AUTOCAD!!! so 3ds max and other programs have to be 3 times more expensive but that was not the case. You have freelance sites where indians(dont want to offend nobody but that was reality) are cheap as hell. I in europe if you ask me in arch and product design, UE I would take 3-5 times more than 3ds max, why? well you have 3-5 times more work and when you finish you can get animation and realtime, and good animation cost a lot of money still today. Anybody can make 3d model, but looking good cant. Also there is the trick who order project. In most of cases there is people that doesnt know how to turn computer so it is space tehnology for them, so dont drop price, if they have a little clue still dont understand how it works (dont drop price again xD). I had people on arch faculty that on fifth year they see space around them as 2D space they dont realize 3D, and that is 50% of them. And there is also demand… a lot of factors are in the game but be strong, and your negotiation skills are most important, dont be droped by good negotiation person that doesnt have a clue what process you have to do for finall product! good luck