Using RAW: Microsoft Camera Codec Pack for W10

"Images / photographs can be loaded in all file formats recognized by Microsoft Windows, e.g., … raw formats (if Microsoft Camera Codec Pack has been installed)

But (MS person on forum): “As of the moment, we don’t have a separate codec pack for Windows 10”

So “Windows has a built-in tool called Program Compatibility Troubleshooter that could automatically fix any compatibility problems for you. If the troubleshooter can’t fix the problem, you can manually make an app run in compatibility mode, which will run the app using the settings from an earlier version of Windows”

But still get a “this is not for your version of windows” error message.

Anyone got a detailed procedure for loading RAW files (actually Sony ARW) into RC in W10? I see https://support.capturingreality.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/115001352532-ARW-Sony-Raw-support-?input_string=Microsoft%20Camera%20Codec%20Pack%20for%20W10in which Wishgranter says “The question is why are you not using RAW development workflow ? Because with a good one you can get the most out of your RAW files”.

So I wonder if that’s about some better route to using RAW.

Any advice?

Hi Tom, what do you want to know? If RAW developement works? Yes, it does.

I was looking into using RAWs directly with RC as well but mine are not supported by Windows yet.

My second thought was -

is Wishgranter suggesting some workflow I don’t know about, for using RAW - if so does that mean I don’t need to pursue my first thought which was -

how to download Microsoft Camera Codec Pack onto a W10 computer? Because that’s apparently how Windows gets to recognises a wide range of proprietary RAW formats (incl yours, surely). But there’s not a Codec Pack version available for W10.

How do people import RAW into a W10 machine?

You mean get it to display RAWs natively? Either it works out of the box or it doesn’t.

I guess that there is no codec for Win10 yet because they implemented the old Win7 codec right from the start.

There are many formats that are not supported by windows yet, including mine!  :frowning:

Did you try the software wishgranter was mentioning in the thread you linked to?

That’s the way I would go if I wanted to do that - it’s not very expensive.

I decided to go with RAW developement instead because I still need to correct CA and such.

Maybe something I’m not understanding here.

I took Sony ARW pics and stored them on my W10 machine, no problem.

On trying to load the ARW files into RC, it refuses.

RC Help says "Images / photographs can be loaded in all file formats recognized by Microsoft Windows, e.g., … raw formats (if Microsoft Camera Codec Pack has been installed).

I go looking for Microsoft Camera Codec Pack and indeed it has codec for ARW, one of very many.

But Microsoft Camera Codec Pack won’t install on my W10 machine, turns out there’s no version for W10. Installing in Compatibility Mode doesn’t work.

So - how do people get any kind of RAW files loaded into RC, as an alternative to JPG?

Or is that the wrong question - am I missing something?

Hey Tom,

ok, you can only use RAWs (any kind) in RC if they are supported/recognized by windows, as you already said/quoted.

This is the case when you can see thumbnails and use the windows viewer to display them.

From what you said so far I gather that this is not the case for your PC.

Now you can either contact Sony or Microsoft about this, but from what I have read they just blame each other respectively to be responsible for implementing it. Did you look if Sony provides something?

I found this with two clicks: https://esupport.sony.com/swu/4022/US/ 

If not, your only option left is the software that I have pointed out (referred to by Wishgranter), although I have no experience with it myself. It does the same thing, it is basically a third party codec with some more functionality (e.g. faster thumbnail display, I think). I’m not advertizing, just trying to point out a possible solution.

Or just develop them into Tif or Jpg…

Just found this again and have a follow-up:

If you install the RAW developer that comes with your camera, usually a codec for windows will be installed as well. With this, windows should be able to display the files…