Sitrec
(Sitrec)
October 23, 2014, 8:33am
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@McStryker
Hi, there must be some misunderstanding .
Just to clarify few things:
I do not try to insult anybody, I do respect what Epic’s engineers are doing and I really think they are great at it
Yes, I’m very, very new to game dev, but I’m not new to software development.
I do understand how priviledged we are in having access to such technology - I myself mentioned that on number of occasions.
OK, having said the above, doesn’t change the fact that UE4 is still at very unstable stage.
To me software (and after all UE4 is just a software of certain kind) which constantly crashes, cannot open previously (last evening) saved packages and what not is not stable.
shouldn’t be taken as an insult and I never meant it to be taken as such.
I also see world differently to you and for example to guy. He is great and I admire him, but I cannot be happy all the time like he is (or it looks like it anyway). But even he got bit piised off with changes in UE4, so it just show you that everybody has his limits.
I also don’t believe that being Politically Correct is a great way to be. In my world not everyone is doing great stuff, not everyone is great at everything they touch, not everything is beautiful and rosy, and as long as I’m able to express my opinion I will continue to do it, not to insult people, but in hope that somebody will get the message and will try to improve things.
I do love UE4 and the way Epic is trying to work with community. does not change the fact that UE4 is still at very unstable stage. Would you agree with that?
And as for C# not being toy language? Sure, never said such thing, but it is definitely not for game dev at that level, yet you will find people who claim, that performance is not important (in game dev, you hear that) that C# provides higher abstraction than C++, that that the other. And what? Am I supposed to just stand and say nothing? Such behavior (passiveness), was cause of first and second war. Stalinizm happened because of such behavior. I know we are computer folks, and those examples are … but you know I have broader interests than just computers, and knowing what happened and why in world we live in is great thing.
Another thing you mentioned about pouring heart into work. I believe most (if not everybody ) are doing exactly the same. has two fold meaning:
I am pouring my heart into my game, and if after release game will not be positively received, will not get good sales etc, surely you don’t expect me to start posting on forum and wherever else: hey, guys, but I’ve put so much work into it and I’ve poured my heart into it, so surely you ought to like it and don’t have any rights to critisize it, right? Wrong. If my game is a failure it is only my fault and nobody’s else.
If I’m pouring my heart into my game and I’m working with unstable software, than I’m sorry but I cannot see it other way than that software is not good enough yet even though has a great potential. It does sabotages my work. Surely isn’t right and you wouldn’t expect it from software, doesn’t matter how many hearts were poured into it?
Best regards
So just because you complain about stability (even though you can’t even be precise and point to what the problem is) you’re a hero and the rest of us is just afraid of being politically incorrect?
Get off your high horse. Most active users on forum provide much more constructive criticism than you do. All you’re doing is saying it’s a “toy” and that it’s unstable without ever saying anything constructive.
Since you think you’re such a hero, then maybe you should help by actually pointing to what needs to be changed and what the stability issues are, rather than just complain like a hurt kid.
You’re not providing anything.