first one I think is the menu starter kit auto save for level unlocks , and the second one is a manual save. but the others are not there.I wonder if it latched onto your save system as well somehow, that’s why I was trying to find a way to disable it. I’m now using standard open level bp’s to transition from level to level , but I have a lot of (98) variables in your progress struct that I am saving with menu starter kit system(and some like your trap saving on the level bp). also menu starter kit system puts the save and load functions into the main character when installed and activated. So those functions are on TPP character. I may have created a new hybrid! LOL -------- Like a Frankenstein