[SUPPORT] Advanced Turn Based Tile Toolkit

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@Selentic;702672

I probably just got lucky, that’s disappointing to hear. I was really hoping they finally nailed it.

Well, I have actually not encountered this bug again since I replied to you last. It only happened consistently and repeatedly with one old map I was working on. Maybe there is reason to be cautiously optimistic. Let me know if you encounter the bug again.

@SpineRazor;702708

That is exactly it. I was close pretty close except for getting the “Vector Field Array” and calling everything in that spot in the graph. Thanks once again for your help.

Glad it worked I hope the reason it now works when it didn’t before makes sense. Let me know if you want me to clear up anything.

@Metalfan66;703432

The majority of the game is completly playable and done, but of course ONLY IN THE OLD ENGINE. (So around 80 maps: poland till stalingrad - for comparision: Panzer Corps 2, which is beeing developed now in the ue4 will have only 20 maps) Some Campaign “Sideways” f. ex. when you are **degraded and beeing transfered from russia to africa **have to be done, the invasion of the usa too, but in the old 2D Engine you could package the first three parts of the game. (if i release it someday with the ue4, i plan to release it in parts: 39,40,41 etc.)

Ok, neat! Having a completed game to work towards replicating will probably be very useful. A common recommendation for new game developers is to attempt to recreate an existing game, and in your case you will have created the game you planned to make in the process.

@Metalfan66;703432

So your ATBTT will be of great help, but first i have to become much better reg. blueprints. Then your work could be the foundation for mine.

I’m quite sure it will be very useful to you as a foundation. I’ve tried to keep it as flexible as possible so that it can be used as a base for many sorts of TBS games.

@Metalfan66;703432

Regarding the artillery example: It´s not that easy, ai has to plan future turns, because its not enough to be one tile away of the enemy. Idealy it should analyze which kind of enemy it is and if the enemy can reach it in the next turn. (tanks are fast f. ex.) Then ai should place defence units like antitank guns to keep the tanks away. In defence thats no problem, with the old 2D Engine, because i can set the arty to “hold position and just fire” and place anti tank guns in front of the artillery. And add a skript like "if enemy kills one anti tank gun, retreat to another prebuild def. pos. with anti t. guns).

Ok, I see. Designing AI is both tricky and fun. One important thing to remember is that it matters more that the AI looks intelligent to the player than that the AI is super complex and carefully evaluates all possible actions it can do. There are often many ways to slightly fake it and use heuristics.

@Metalfan66;703432

Master of Orion 2 is a special game. It´s the genre primus reg. 4x Spacecivgames for two decades now. Many companies tried to release a modern, better game of that kind and all failed. (Mostly because of dumb design decisions, like developing an rts battle system with nearly no depth and challenge, instead of a much improved turn based system, or its just autobattle what i regard as total fail) If you don´t know, go check the game Alpha Centrauri. Its a mixture of Civilization and Master of Orion and is still regarded as the tbs with the best ai ! Jagged Alliance 2 is in many regards like X-com. X-Com has the better grafics, JA2 the better gameplay, and a dynamic campaign. Those games are pearls, that every designer should know.

I am aware of all the games you mention and know what they are about, but have just not played all of them. It is on my to-do list, but the last couple of years playing games has taken a back seat to making games. I still play games when I have the time, though, and when I do they tend to be TBS games.

@Metalfan66;703432

I am starting with a simple zombie game, which i have tutorials for. Second i try to recreate the orig. castle wolfenstein. (i should be able to create better grafics )

Seems like you have a good idea of how to best learn the engine. Watching tutorials and making simple games is a great plan. Best of luck, and when you begin making your TBS feel free to ask questions in this thread anytime.

@Metalfan66;703432

Last but not least, thanks for your answer.

My pleasure