Mod / editor support for UE4 games? sounds too unfriendly

[Chosker]

@;16680

You could say that about any feature that UE4 does not have and you need to write your own, like Inventory system (which btw, been part of the engine in the past since beginning). If you want make your game mod friendly, if this is so impotent for you, why you need to wait for Epic to do things for you?

I notice that there some strange problems in this community, that strange mentality of building game starting from above instead from ground, thinking that somebody need to do things for you. Mentality of locking themselves in the virtual cage of others (which is opened btw), then wondering why there are sitting there and why they can’t do things in it. With this kind of mentality, modding would not be even created… bah games would not be created. So i don’t know how you can be good game developer with such mentality. If you lack abilities then find somebody with them… or continue waiting for Epic to do something if anything. iOS is known to have the thoroughest software restrictions, even thru developers complaining, it does not stop them to find even craziest work arounds to withstand those restrictions… here most of things you got open and not much of restriction, yet it some developers seem to be paralyzed.

you’re not refering to me with this, are you? let me remind you that I created an Inventory Starter Kit (complete with GUI, drag and drop, equipping, looting) for UDK and released it freely to everyone. I’m not waiting for Epic to make my game. all I want is to allow the players of my game to create their own content, without requiring me to write a complete editor from scratch… because I already have an editor!

you know, not everyone has the time and money to make Everquest Next

but regarding starting to build a game from above, isn’t this what Epic themselves are enforcing anyway? they are introducing more and more game templates and creating a marketplace

@;16680

And again if users whats to mod your game so badly then they always find a way to do so… even without paying 19$ for editor, there many examples of games which developer didn’t think about modding abilities, yet community can rip that game in pieces, even components that does not suppose to be editable. First mods been done on games which didn’t have mod support at all as developers didn’t had that idea at all, mods been created by gamers.

there are many examples yes, but you cannot compare the mod popularity of moddable games from the unmoddable ones.
think of the widely popular Diablo2 where many people wanted to mod it and failed. now take a look at how a direct competitor (a much less popular one), Neverwinter Nights, had a much longer lifetime because of the new campaigns the fans created.
The same holds true and is even more critical for any Strategy game. Just as deathmatch and arena based shooters (like UT3 itself). they become boring after a while if no new maps become available

even if some skilled hackers can change a few things in a game, if the game isn’t moddable for everyone, and the maps and mods easy to apply and use, the grand majority of people will not bother.
and so, the modding community will be negligibly small.