I’m pretty sure an EPIC Engine developer would say “please stop screaming at each other”.
At this point I would suggest that the only useful purpose this thread still holds is to demonstrate to everyone how pointless conversations like this are once everyone starts yelling at each other.
Alternatively, how great would it be if we all realised how out of control the thread has gotten, all took a time out to cool off, then came back and had another go at talking about it but this time without losing our cool.
One key that I find helpful, is to try and be more focused on explaining why I think what I think in a way that I’m happy with rather than on whether or not I’ve managed to get the other person to agree with me.
Basically I’ll say my bit as well as possible, then after that whether or not someone comes around to my way of seeing things is entirely up to them.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink 