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How fo you know that your item ready to sell ?

This question always pop up in my mind. Any guide for this ?

i mae character, props, and weapon.

@vincentslee

#1. Buyers Shoes:
Try to put yourself into your buyers shoes and ask what would they want… There are buyers who will NEVER buy anything from sellers who don’t have a profile on the forums or who don’t post regularly. In another thread, devs were asking what buyers look for. Many look at YouTube clips, and pay close attention to the images of the whole pack laid out. They look to see if the Seller has a profile on the forums and if they post regularly to SUPPORT their products. They read Marketplace reviews to put perspective on product stars / ranking. They look to see if the assets are easy to customize (see below)… If not, buyers may be more cautious about buying…

#2. Research:
Research the marketplace, not just Epic’s, the whole marketplace Turbosquid Cgtrader etc etc. PLUS ALL THE FREE stuff in Community-Tools and YouTube etc. Overall, the marketplace is quite competitive, especially as regards characters / props / weapons etc. This is sort of bad news for new sellers, as reputation or being established is often critical.

#3. Portfolio:
Some modelers resist making assets for Epic’s Marketplace until they’ve worked on several game projects privately and have a shinny / glossy portfolio to show off. Quality is high, so its better to understand YOUR direct competition asap. For weapons, buyers often look to Ironbelly. For characters, buyers often look to ProtoFactor etc. For props, devs can often make their own or re-purpose old assets with new materials. So, you need to start asking yourself, what are you offering versus the COMPETITION… - Plus you need to accept, that RIGGING and ANIMS should be offered as well, and can’t just be an afterthought. So overall, its better to make rigged assets along with animations, then decide later on how you want to sell them and at what price point.

#4. Customization:
Usually buyers want assets that are highly customisable and modular (see posts by @TechLord). There’s many reasons for this, including the fact that assets can be re-purposed for multiple projects later. Also, buyers may fear that assets that scream ‘Marketplace’ may show up in lots of other games devaluing their work. While the end user / gamer may never notice, devs will be more cautious about buying assets like this. There are exceptions though, which may include assets used in Simulations / ArchViz etc. So it all depends… Overall, Sellers not offering customization / modularity plus rigging and anims, may wonder why their products aren’t selling well. So understand, for buyers, its risky to buy assets that aren’t easy to customize or have a ‘high-degree-of-signature’ pointing back to the original author.

#5. SMART Assets:
Think about making ‘SMART’ assets. If you make a single-purpose prop like a Rope Bridge, it may only sell so much. But if you make a BP asset that’s a re-sizable rope bridge or has a highly-customizable look, it may sell more. In short, always try to make Character systems that are highly customizable. Too many times, sellers make products that already exist on the marketplace with few unique new features. A common example is Mini-maps / Radar. Epic should be pushing the bar higher and demanding the marketplace has Elite-D class Radar or @TheJamsh’s terrain radar etc. Amazingly, Epic aren’t all that concerned, even if it risks turning buyers off…

#6. Sales Pricing / Cost:
Low Price is really important to some buyers, but for others its not. You need to understand where budget pricing will count in your favor and when it will hurt you. How can you find that out? Hold Polls here on the forums and ask… You can also PM potential buyers. Also, look at past threads (search on Allar etc). There are projections offering insights into sales cycles, that may give you some idea of what to expect. But overall make friends here on the forums… Show off ongoing work and improvements and interact regularly, to help build up a possible audience for your work! Good luck!

Adding/extending to what @franktech posted, people will usually pay attention on seller’s posts to see if he contributes with the community and also the quality of those answers would point if the seller has knowledge, so it is a way to measure one’s competency.

Price can be thought:
=> its cost must reflect your quality and competency == higher quality increases price
=> it must save time for the buyer, so he doesn’t need to contract someone to do it == lower price is an attractive
=> the more customizable == higher price

When to know it is ready, it is a strange question thou, because you just don’t create things from thin air, you create things with a purpose, to fill a gap of something that doesn’t exist or are poorly covered in a specific market, so there is no straight answer but a set of questions you should make to yourself:
=> Is it easy to use?
=> Is it well documented? (docs, pictures and video)
=> Does it interfere with other known system implemented in a game or archviz?
=> Used in a game or archviz, how much more work the user must accomplish to use it?
=> consequence fromt the previous question: Does it save work?

It is clear with the text above that when you provide just a character, there is no way for one to tell if he can properly rig or animate it later, so it is high risk for the buyer (no rights for a refund), meaning the chances are close to zero. But if you sell a rigged and animated character, then the opportunity for a sale is much more higher than zero. The risk for the buyer is mittigated because Epic would do some QA and for the product description they know they can complain it something doesn’t work, even giving them the rights for a refund.

thanks for info, i will study more :slight_smile:

its a huge wall for newbie like me.

i am however, only know how to make models.

@Vincentlee

Don’t get me wrong… I am not a super ultra dupper expert in Unreal… I do know my limitations in game development and I do know there are areas I can’t compete, because it is just not the fact of knowing how to do something, but do something with the quality expectations for a buyer and that can be on par with competition in the marketplace. This is the main reason why I don’t sell models (yet) because it requires knowing and offering complete solutions:

  • model with excellent topology and texturing
  • with bone hierarchy compatible with Epic skeleton (unless it is not humanoid, but will require bone hierarchy)
  • rigged in a easy way, using common practices in the market (how to rig for several spots to move arms, legs, waist, head, eyes, mouth) and not having unwanted bends or twists in body parts.
  • compatible with animations in the marketplace

Until I am not able to offer complete solutions like that, I will not enter the market, simple.

And this is the part I don’t want you to be offended… your question is far behind the one you think you should ask: How do you know you are ready to sell something?

I hope you can find a way to complete your study and become a complete professional (afterall you called yourself newbie). The market for employment does requires more than just a 3D Modeller, he must know how to texture, rig and animate, he does need thou, excel in something, lets say modeling or animation, and even thou animation nowadays for humanoids are completed with Mocap. There are people that excel in texturing, but don’t have same profficiency with modeling or animation, but they do know the stuff.

I do want you to consider some attention for the Udemy’s courses (there are lots of them) with prices that almost everyone can afford, just yesterday I saw a course for US$30. I myself made 5 courses in the end of last year, each one cost me US$ 10!! They are not mastering courses, but they do add to your profile.

If you want still compete with modeling, do props and weapons, since they have less requirements besides the scale which should be compatible with their intended use (ie: revolver scaled to a character’s hand)