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Female Paragon skeleton retargeting issues

Hello

We have the Paragon Countess model and we retargeted some animations, however her arms are a bit out of place in some animations. It’s important to get it accurate because she is holding a katana so both her hands need to look like they are holding it. Here’s her skeleton against the non-retargeted one, you can see the position of the original animation is quite different to where her hands are

Currently her retargeting settings are set to Animation for Root and Pelvis, and Skeleton for everything else.

Any ideas?

Thanks

It looks like the whole skeleton is marginally different.
All of the translations seem marginally off.

Are you sure the initial retargeting pose is an exact rotational match (Same identical rotations to the original on all bones)?

Regardless of that. It looks like the forward arm of the frame you screenshotted is hooked to a different bone or not properly retargeting.
The correct position of the clavicle should match up with the original version.
Distortion is off going forward in the chain but it’s always somewhat accurate at the base.

Thanks for taking a look at this. For comparing the bone rotations I exported the skeleton and compared with the UE mannequin and the axis are the same. Here’s the retargeting setup

I see what you mean about the rotations looking slightly off, here’s a better view comparing the clavicle rotation:

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What’s the best way to fix this?

Take both models to an external DCC and create poses that look near identical.
Import both as animations, and set them up as the base retargeting pose to be used.

Reminder: it’s still all being approximated, there’s just no way to maintain the exact same without also having the exact same bone structure.

Still struggling with this, I tried your suggestion but yes it’s still off quite a bit. The original animation is for the male UE4 skeleton, I tried scaling it down but the proportions just don’t fit the character model in the arms/hands. Also tried with the female skeleton but again the proportions aren’t exact. Tried adjusting the animations themselves in UE using additive keys but it’s very finicky, there are also a lot of animations I would need to tweak.

Any other suggestions to try? I considered just adapting the model to fit around the skeleton but there are LODs which would mean updating each one.

Thanks

The only other thing to do is to export the retargeted result back out and adjust it…