Collision bug in paper2d?

Hello everyone.
For past weeks i am battling with collision issues inside my paper2d project.
For reasons that i cannot explain, collision triggers (on begin overlap) for first couple of times fire as intended and after that all hell breaks loose!
It registers collisions hundreds of units away and yesterday i even saw a collision trigger fire from an object that wasnt even present on my level!
Any help pinpointing this and solving it would be great since this issue hinders progress of my game .
I simply cannot create any interactions between characters since collisions seem random.
Thank you.

Hey ,

Please list specific instances of collision issues you have experienced with as many details as you have available, images included if possible. You mentioned another collision issue with your wall cling functionality when I spoke with you earlier; is that still occurring?

Dear ,
It seems that this behaviour is happening only with blueprints that have a CharacterMovement component(character BP).With any other blueprint type collisions seem to work fine.
I cannot see how i can explain better in writing to you problem since you already have my project and you can see it happening realtime in your own computer. only thing i can do to help further is to send you latest version of my file that has all optimizations that you suggested.

I am not 100% sure but i think i cracked it!
When my hero collides with capsuleComponent of a BP that has CharacterMovement component everything seem to work fine. problem is when he collides with a box collider that has been added to above blueprint!
I just added a box collider in my archer and i have same exact problems.If i collide with him using only his capsuleComponent then everything seems normal.

I was finally able to reproduce this in a custom project. one thing that set it off was, as you discovered, having two sources for collision. In my custom enemy, CapsuleComponent collision preset is set to Pawn. In CollisionBox, it is also set to Pawn, but with one difference: it is set to ignore Pawns. If it is not set to ignore pawns, two conflict and all sorts of weird things start to happen.

It may be different in your project (I’ll test that out later), as if I remember correctly you have your Spartan character’s collision preset set to Vehicle? Making all of different collision interactions work properly in your project may involve setting custom object types and collision presets, which you can do in Project Settings > Collision.

I’m letting a developer know it’s been narrowed down.

I am not crazy after all.Thanks !
In your experience should i wait a little longer in case this thing is resolved swiftly or should i put in man hours (since i have quite a few interactions between characters) to set everything as you mentioned above?

I wouldn’t wait. Having collision component conflicts shouldn’t cause this kind of behavior, but you wouldn’t want them in your project even if they didn’t as they would likely cause many other issues. A good, clean collision setup for your whole project can be challenging, but in end it’s going to be worth effort.

I totally understand what you are saying but shouldn’t engine being able to know when there are multiple collision detectors within same blueprint and disable conflicts and collisions between them automatically?
Creating a clean collision system between collision components within a blueprint does not make any sense to me .You would soon run out of custom collision presets anyway.
For time being until this is fixed from collision guys i will have to do it hard way. Thank you again for you time and patience!

Just a heads up.Your observations are partially true.
I just finished a set of tests and it appears problem is deeper than we thought.
I have my capsuleComponen interact with a detect block so it knows when to turn left or right and of course with static objects so it wont fall off level.I also have a collision box that interacts with main hero.Even if i set them not to interact between them (in my case it was already set up this way at least in version i am working now) result is same .it still freaks out. reason it didnt do same to you is because you didn’t have a third collision in equation! If i disable one collision (ignore patrol block which is world dynamic ) from my capsuleComponent then it works.
As you can see this new evidence makes things chaotic and impossible to create any proper collision system.
And please do not forget that if you change your BP collision settings for a component and you do not delete and re import instance to viewport then new settings do not update.

Hello , did you have any progress in solving this problem?

Has anyone figured out what is going on so i can start working again on collision interactions between characters?
Thank you.

Someone PLEASE help me with this.Its been almost 2 months that i am facing this problem and it is so severe that i cannot create anything in my game that requires collisions between character Blueprints that have more than one collision box inside them.
Thank you.

Hey ,

I’m going to try to build this bug up from bottom. I created a new SideScroller 2D project and set up a very basic representation of what you had set up in your project. I’ve included an enemy with 2 Box components in addition to its Capsule Component, as well as a couple of Patrol Blocks with their own Collision Channel and Preset (PatrolBlock). With this basic setup, I have not been able to reproduce problem (though I still see it occurring in project you sent me awhile back).

To help me narrow it down, can you pull down this project and take a quick look, see if I’m missing anything you need, and let me know? I’d like to get root cause of issue nailed down, and it appears that having an additional Box component is not, in itself, causing problem.

Here’s a Dropbox link to test project:


Hello buddy,

nice to have you back!
I managed to recreate problem and i am uploading project and a video as well ,just in case :slight_smile:
And please do not forget to report that engine does not apply any new collision settings that you change to a bp character until you delete them from map and put them back in.For example if you change “block pawn” to “overlap pawn” to a collision box from your character blueprint that will not take effect until you delete and re-import blueprint character to your map.This is a VERY serious bug because you can spend days wondering why your collisions do not work as intended.I personally spend more than 2 days trying to figure out what heck was wrong until i discovered above.Thank you!

Note:Please download and watch video.Preview from dropbox is really bad quality.

I’m not seeing same collision issues you initially described, in which jumping on enemy would cause that weird looping bounce.

What I’m seeing right now is that Overlap in EnemyCharacter isn’t always detecting collision with MyCharacter. I’ll take a look to see if there isn’t something we’re missing and then bug that if necessary.

I’ll also look into issue you described with needing to replace a BP in level after making changes to its collision settings. I haven’t seen that before, but I’ll take another look in this project. Did you see that same behavior in this project?

But I still am not seeing weird continual collision issue that we first saw in your project. Are you able to duplicate that in this project at all?

you did not see that continuous bouncing problem because i have set up collision here as overlap and not block.If you set it to block while it fires you will see exact same behaviour.As for second part ,yes it got me fooled again!lol. i was setting up project and while i was changing collision presets for enemy when i pressed play to check what i did it simply did not work.Then i remembered i had to delete them and re-import them and then system updated collisions and it worked as intended.

Okay, I was able to reproduce weird bouncing issue when I turned Block Pawns on for Collision Presets of CollisionBoxBottom component and CapsuleComponent for EnemyCharacter, as well as for CapsuleComponent of MyCharacter. Only one CollisionBox component needed to have conflicting collision with CapsuleComponent to reproduce this. I suspect it may also have something to do with Paper Character Blueprints specifically, as I could not get this to happen with any other type of Blueprint in any other type of project, even if Constrain to Plane is enabled.

I entered TTP# 347803 for this one. In meantime, best way to avoid this issue, as I mentioned below, is to make sure components within a Blueprint are not blocking each other. This may involve many custom Object Channels if your project is especially complex, but careful use of this feature and avoiding collision conflicts results in a cleaner project. I would be happy to update Dropbox project to show you how this can be done, if you’d like.

I was also able to reproduce issue with collision presets requiring a fresh instance of character blueprint being dropped in level, and entered TTP# 34775 for it. This does not appear to be specific to Paper2D, but to Blueprints that use CharacterMovement component (Character.h, PaperCharacter.h, etc).

I’m still narrowing down issue with inconsistent overlap detection. It seems like it may involve only components and not actors. I’ll let you know when I have it in a TTP.

I’ll keep you up to date when I see changes on these bug reports. Thanks for your help!

Hi !

I would like to know if we had any progress regarding this bug and if your team is planning for a fix anytime soon.It was beginning of July when i first encountered this problem and it would really make me happy to finally start seeing some interaction between my characters.Right now i do not place any Enemies inside my levels because of all collision problems,and my game looks so empty and sad.

Hi ,

second bug is being looked at for 4.7, though they’re not currently sure how they will fix it. I’m checking to see what devs have to say about first issue, and will let you know when I get a response.