Can't merge Laser + Photos

I have a laser scan and photos that I want to align / merge.
Can’t figure out how to get them to merge into 1 component.

The laser scans were taken, and aligned in another software, and exported with both Color and Intensity.

Process so far:

  • align the photos into a component → export the component
  • import already-aligned laser scans with alignment set to Exact → export the component
  • import the 2 components into a new project
  • hit Align
  • expected: a single component with photos+laser scans
  • actual: 2 new components, one for the photos, one for the laser scans

What I tried

  • Hit Merge Components instead of hitting Align
  • Alignment Settings: Detector Sensitivity: High
  • Add some control points between the laser + photos components
  • Laser scans: Prior Pose: Absolute Pose: Locked

Reality Capture 1.4.1

What am I doing wrong?

Laser


Photos

Hi Will,
what were your exact laser scan import settings?
As you don’t have too many data, why aren’t you importing into one project directly?
What are your alignment settings? I see, that some inputs are georeferenced, but the components aren’t.
But basically you need to use more control points (at least three). I see you have only one used. And those had to be placed on both components.

@OndrejTrhan

As you don’t have too many data, why aren’t you importing into one project directly?

I followed a video that said to do it that way. But based on your suggestion I tried it in one project, steps below:

what were your exact laser scan import settings?

  • import laser scans (.e57), settings:
    image
  • Align
  • import images
  • Inputs > Group (not sure if that does anything)
  • Align (images and laser scans)

What are your alignment settings?

I see, that some inputs are georeferenced, but the components aren’t.

Interesting. I didn’t know about that. Let’s see if I’ve got it right.
Selected all my images:


I don’t see anything about georeferencing.

Select all laser scans:


I don’t see any mention of Georeferencing

But basically you need to use more control points (at least three). I see you have only one used. And those had to be placed on both components.

Will do now.

BTW,
Should I use Intensity instead of Color?
Should I set Inputs > select all laser scans > Lock Pose for Continue = yes

Ok, they aligned, with no control points.
I just used the steps above.
I’m not sure why they aligned this time.
I’m not sure what difference caused the success - any ideas?

Do you think it was the fact that I was

  • import images, align, export as a component
  • import laser scans, align, export as component
  • import both components into a new project
    Do you think that export/import locks the positions in some way so that the images can’t move to where the laser scans are?

@OndrejTrhan
Should the Intensity values give more accurate mesh than Color?
When meshing we seem to get better mesh if we

  • disable meshing for the photos
  • enable meshing for the laser
    is that the right approach?

Will

In your first post the scans were georeferenced for some reason. Maybe you used different settings.
image
Also, there are visible position errors for the scans in 3D view. In your next post, there is no georeferencing. So maybe that caused your issues.

Should I use Intensity instead of Color?
It sepends on your scans (how were you scanned). Colored scans are more mergeable with images.

Should I set Inputs > select all laser scans > Lock Pose for Continue = yes
This is not necessary for laser scans.

Should the Intensity values give more accurate mesh than Color?
I suppose not if you are using just laser scans. With images, there could be slight differences in the alignment.

When meshing we seem to get better mesh if we

*disable meshing for the photos
*enable meshing for the laser
Basically, this is a general workflow. Laser scans are used for meshing, images for texturing. But there is an option to set the priority of these for mesh calculation, as sometimes the scans don’t cover the whole area: How to give more priority to laser scans in reconstrution - #2 by OndrejTrhan

In your first post the scans were georeferenced. Also, there are visible position errors for the scans in 3D view. In your next post, there is no georeferencing. So maybe that caused your issues.

I see the icon now - i’ll look out for that in the future.

Basically, this is a general workflow. Laser scans are used for meshing, images for texturing. But there is an option …

Thank you for that.

I can see that the laser provides a very even/regular mesh density,
whereas the images have the ability to provide very fine mesh details, much finer than the laser.

Do you think i’m missing a setting somewhere that would increase the fine detail i get in my mesh from the laser?

I suppose this should be contrary maybe. Can you show what you mean? Have you changed reconstruction settings somehow?