Accuracy and speed. I'm impressed.

I start testing this application couple months ago after when I bought NVIDIA graphics card but first serious scene was created three weeks ago. And … This application is very accur and very fast. Now I can create very fast complex recostructions. Much much faster than on Agisoft. Reconstruction of this scene below on my PC and Photoscan was almost impossible. Too long and 128 GB of ram is not enough. As you see this Point cloud is complex and very detailed!!! This app is amazing. I can’t publish this scene on Sketchfab because is too big so I’m doing it here. BTW CR Team please make some changes in UI particularly cataloging and filtering photos:]

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Hi Robert,

thanks for sharing!
Very impressive.
How many images and what resolution did you use?
Would you mind posting some screenshots with cameras activated?

Forget the first part of the question!
Just need to look properly… :wink:

hehe np:] I used DJI Phantom 4 Pro.

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hello, just popping in to say ‘great job!’

Excellent, thank you very much!
Very interesting.
I suppose there is no laserscan involved?
What is your intended level of detail, just general view or also close-ups?
What resolution (mm/px) did you achieve?

I’m only asking because I am still desperately trying to improve my models.
And yours seems to have an awfully good coverage of all the intricate detail, especially inside.
I would have expected for one thing more images and also more connections of your on-foot circles with the phantom cylinders.
Maybe my aims are too high for my puny equipement… :?
What kind of quality is the on-board camera of the phantom?

But I guess that’s going a bit too far off topic now… :wink:

Yes only Phantom no laser. I’m hobbyist so laser is too expensive for me. The lowest distance between drone and towers was ~15m. Below you can find statistics and some example photos from my Phantom 4 pro(Drop Box). P4P has 20mpx camera.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lphv0zwx4vkj … 5G2ta?dl=0

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Again, thanks for sharing!
This Phantom 4 Pro really seems to be the RealityCapture of the semi-pro drones.
I was intent not to get one of those oversized eggbeaters but - wow - I think you just totally changed my mind! :mrgreen:

No problem:) Dji Phantom 4 PRO has new camera much much better than Phantom 4 or Phantom 3 Pro. Why Phantom 4 PRO? Is light, portable, simple:) and of course top quality pictures and video.

Yeah, I noticed that! :slight_smile:
I have been looking every now and so often over the past years, but was never convinced because it was either too bad image quality or frankly way too expensive. Never mind the bother to learn how to pilot such a thing. But with those options now, it might be worth it! Did you pilot it yourself?

Yes I’m drone operator:) Phantom’s are easy to fly and easy to use. Previously I used Dji Phantom 3 pro. Wasn’t so bad. In good light conditions pictures were alright but only in good light conditions. P4P has much better camera than P3P or P4. Easily you can recover most of details from shadow or dark areas. Details are the most important thing for me.

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Well, I guess with a 1’’ sensor you can’t expect miracles at night.
But if that camera can fly, that there is one big plus to make up for some noise… :slight_smile:

Actually, in my experience RC does a great job with darker areas.
MUCH better than photoscan for example, which was one of the reasons why I looked into it more closely.
Where with PS I got weird bumps in shadowy areas, RC showed a smooth surface.
So I wonder if brightning up the images before processing them in RC is actually neccessary…

Those panoramas been taken in different light conditions. Night Panorama with ISO 800 + processing. P4P sensor is in my opinion is V good quality.

http://www.mm.pl/~krayczek/panorama1/
http://www.mm.pl/~krayczek/panorama/
http://www.mm.pl/~krayczek/panorama2/

Wow, I like the night panorama!
You are one serious hobbyist! :slight_smile:

Maybe I’m serious hobbyist but only hobbyist. Maybe I’m serious hobbyist but only hobbyist. It’s not easy to find right job here where live. I’m thinking now about serious job not this what I’m doing everyday:/ Below you can find my holiday project. I went to Poland last April and I took a few pictures old town in my City. Maybe someday I’ll finish it. If i earn enough to buy bigger RC license:]

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Robert, this is really extremely good stuff!
When I saw your first post, I was certain that you are some sort of professional 3D-artist or surveyor.

I shall add one of my humble projects - quite different in scale.
For me, orthophotos are the goal and the 3D-models are just the means to an end.
The challenge was an ancient tree standing directly in front of the building, allowing only for 1-3 meters of distance…

My equipement is rather humble, a mere LX100. :oops:
But nevertheless, the result is entirely ok.
Even though I used only jpegs and the glas facade on the left gave me a bit of trouble, the accuracy is still within a couple of mm…

Great job!!!
“The challenge was an ancient tree standing directly in front of the building, allowing only for 1-3 meters of distance…”
I believe it was. That’s why I want to buy ~6m high tripod:] My wife does not know yet:P Orthos looks V good!!! in my opinion Panasonic LX100 is very good camera. Pocket and quality is very good as well. Silver LX100 is one of my cameras:] I’m using only tiff files I mean RAW-s converted to tiff files. What i discovered. LX100 has big barrel distortion(focal lenght 24mm). Pictures above 24mm >> are almost without distortion. If you want to get RAW with distortion you need to use something different than Adobe CameraRAW. Unfortunately CameraRAW has bug so if you want to export LX100 RAW-s to Tiff you will get files without distortion. BTW once again Great job:] below another test project LX100 + Phantom 4 Pro. Pictures taken by my brother in Poland and processed by me in UK:]

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Thank you.
And wow!
We can just keep praising each other!
Hehe.
The small detail is again very well covered!

Yeah, I just dabbled with RAW the other day and was shocked to see the distortion!
I am never going to use camera jpeg again!
A bonus would be the considerable gain on the margins, that are cropped by the camera.
Also the contrast is killing small details.

What kind of workflow do you use for developing RAW?
I have tried RAW therapy and it seems to be doing a good job.
Chromatic abberation is no problem.
What I am not sure about is chromatic noise, which in RAW there is some visible.
Did you experiment with careful reduction or do you just leave it as it is?

Funny that we both use the LX100 and silver as well! :lol:
I did get it because it has extremely good value for the money and also because I am using it on a telescope rod (weight)!
However, this does not work as well for buildings as I would have hoped.
Navigation with the rod (window cleaner) is quite a challenge and with larger objects soon becomes a strain on the arms.
Mine is 9 m (in theory) but more than 6 is impossible since I have to assemble it horizontally.
Only for panoramas (which you do) and if you also get a tripod and the segments are long enough so you can extend them while the rod is upright it would be feasible in my opinion.
And if you also want some stability and flexibility (remote controlled gimbal for angle adjustment), you end up with a price that is very close if not higher than the Phantom 4 Pro!
Also, the panasonic app can act up at such a distance (stalling up to a minute), though when reducing the preview to 320x240 it works better.
I think that a 2-3m rod would be sufficient to bridge from person to drone, also helping with downward shot without the shoes… :slight_smile:

Since you live in the UK, there should be a market for such things, right?
In my experience the use in heritage is still quite in the early stages because budgets aren’t too high there…
And then there is also filming industry in london… :wink:

But we are really off topic now.
I think I’ll ask for a Off Topic or Chat section in the Forum.

Götz Echtenacher wrote:

But we are really off topic now.
I think I’ll ask for a Off Topic or Chat section in the Forum.

I think that some of the best stuff comes from off-topic - people can give their thought instantly without having to compose a whole new framework elsewhere (where no-one goes to look anyway) - then it’s easy enough to come back on-topic.

Every thing that’s come into this thread I’ve found interesting and valuable.

I have played with a 6m fishing pole in order to take rooftop pics of the horizon for solar-study, the camera/iphone counterweighted to hang dead-horizontal. Relies on image stabilisation! I bought https://www.cullmann.de/en/detail/id/smartpano-360.html for remote pan and shutter but found it only does 2.5m range. Someone said a TV universal remote can replace the low-power Cullmann remote, for more range. but haven’t gone there yet.

But now drones becxome feasible!

That LX100 looks wonderful - and in silver could easily pass for a traditional Leica!

RawTherapee I’m using only if I need to convert RAWs from LX100. For NEF processing I’m using Adobe CameraRaw. But RT is very good application and of course for free:] I’m always removing chromatic aberration and noise. And now:] When together with brother we were developing our big drone, we found a few useful solutions.
LX100 has problem with signal strength. So you can easily extend range to ~100:]
https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=46543
We using this gimbal
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DYS-Aluminium-Alloy-3Axis-Brushless-Gimbal-Camera-PTZ-Kit-3pcs-Motor-f-NEX-ILDC-/261592374529
and this gimbal controller
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Storm32-BGC-32Bit-3Axis-Brushless-Gimbal-Controller-V1-31-DRV8313-Motor-Driver-l-/281577107867?hash=item418f4db19b:g:i~YAAOSwLVZVjQVh
Sometimes you need to use high ISO value. If you using tripod you can reduce noise and recover some details using this method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5EDn2W9BNk&t=278s

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I hope that we’ll be helpful:]