Update on products generated with AI

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Exactly. There are now source tags required for AI companies to have. These tags show where they got the asset from. You can now trace it like money to see if they stole those assets or have them licensed, which we all know is rarely the case.

These companies are even disappearing people from being a Witness in Court. They know their business is collecting stolen data, put it in a blender and profit with subscriptions :money_mouth_face:.

** They are now in a tight spot if they want to enter Europe :backhand_index_pointing_right: Meta refuses to sign EU’s AI code of practice.

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Lol, yeah and there is a technical explanation for that.. what kind of food can an Animal eat with a budget of 1 dollar a day? :backhand_index_pointing_down:

  • Scans
  • low polys
  • free or cheap stuff
  • AI generated junk
  • TRASH :wastebasket:
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I think I came across wrong!
What I meant was that I believe many who are getting sued would rather buy a licence than do battle in court.
And the companies would rather have them buy a licence, because proving where things came from is going to take time, cost a lot and get messy.
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I did say it feels like trash, but what I also should have said is that 3D models are being devalued so quickly.
A.I is getting better and better at modelling so fast now. The models it creates are almost there and it won’t take too much longer for it to get the topology right.
So, for me…
…I don’t see any point investing time in being creative at the moment.
It seems to me that if somone wants a 3D model for basic use (background, etc) why come to buy one from fab, when you can get one created by one of the many companies doing it at the moment for pennies or even free?
And I believe it’s not too far off now, that very technical models will be created for pennies as well.

Being a creative, from modelling, movies, art and music is going to be an uphill battle against A.I to make any money from.
It’s all very depressing the way the creative world is being devalued at a rapid rate of knots.

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Yes, no doubt about that. It’s already impressive, but the devaluation is due to lack of regulation enforcement. When that happens, 3D models will get very valuable for the reason that AI needs more quality content to eat/train/learn.

Not at the moment I agree. But when technology catches up and forces AI companies to pay Artist for their creations (not one time but as it is being requested by their algorithms), then a balance is found: AI companies get their quality content and Artist get paid constantly. We still years from that unfortunately.

I disagree. I think it be the contrary: a high demand for hand sculpted, high quality technical 3D models. Think of AI generators as PIRATES BAY in 2000. They had all the theater movies, expensive software, music… all FREE while they profited through Advertisement. It took years but eventually they got destroyed because it was all Copyright and Intellectual property infringement. The only difference is that AI companies hide and don’t want to show where they got the content from. That’s about to change in Europe for example. If they don’t tell their sources, they simply cannot enter that Market :prohibited:

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Is it normal and allowed on Fab for one creator, named Gustavo Bigelli, to publish more than 38 AI model in one day and over 638 ai model in total?

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Just ban AI-generated assets from fab.com and launch a separate site called fabAI.com, dedicated entirely to AI-created content. That way, fab.com stays focused on traditional, human-made work, while fabAI.com becomes the go-to place for AI assets.

Offline AI asset generators are already available. They can run on any regular computer, generate thousands of assets within an hour, and even include tools to automate tasks such as uploading AI assets automatically to multiple marketplaces. Because of this kind of cheap mass production, platforms like SoundCloud have banned AI-generated music, and Apple Music and other stores are now doing the same for both AI music and AI art.

Even stock marketplaces that initially allowed AI assets from the very beginning have now decided to ban them. When anyone can easily flood a marketplace with AI content, selling those items individually doesn’t make sense. Creating a dedicated platform for AI assets would solve the flooding problem without harming sales for original asset creators on fab.com.

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I tried to warn about this a year and a half ago, a full year before this update was posted, before Fab was even released: here and here and many other posts in the Creators Hub.

So did other developers, artists and users.

  • None of the issues mentioned by me or by other people was ever taken seriously. Here I am mainly referring to issues related to AI generated content flooding and degrading the marketplace (and now the forums). And also issues related to reviewing, reporting and quality control in general.

  • Every single report I have made was declined with No Action Taken. All appeals were declined as well.

  • One of the first AI sellers who started their UE marketplace journey spamming hundreds of AI generated textures and sounds is currently a Featured Seller on the front page of Fab. This doesn’t send the best message.

  • Since the introduction of the “Show products created with AI” filter, many AI sellers have turned to AI generated Materials, Audio, Music and 3D models instead of Textures, many of which are not properly tagged, none of which gets removed because reporting NEVER once worked.

  • Not only the marketplace’s quality and UX was damaged, almost systematically, almost on purpose and for all the wrong and unnecessary reasons… but now using the forums has become an absolute nightmare.

  • Why would anyone allow creating a forum post for AI generated assets? What benefit would this bring other than overwhelming the forums and ruining the experience for people trying to actually use it? aren’t Epic supposedly trying to fix the exact same issue at Fab’s side? and what would people discuss in such posts? how the prompts were EnGiNeErEd to generate the assets?

  • Genuine, professional, skilled sellers who create original art and content are NOT equal to those who write or copy-paste text prompts and then call whatever the output is “art” or “their creation/work”. Allowing AI content should not have happened from the beginning.
    A passionate artist or developer who would spend their time during a power outage hand-drawing concepts or thinking about a problem is not the same as a text-prompter who would lose all their “abilities” and produce/solve absolutely nothing during a power outage. I appreciate, and find value in the unique human experience, not in binary numbers arranged in the “correct” way based on the AI model’s training data.

  • This is not only about AI generated content not being tagged or being released on Fab in general, this is also about relying on AI for reviewing and moderation as well.
    When submitting two of my Editor Utility Widget products, I received an email telling me that I must include a RUNTIME demo level with the products for them to be approved.
    One of my tools literally warns the user if they are in a non-empty level, and it is an editor-only tool so there is absolutely no need for a demo level, yet I am being asked to include it… what would I include in it? and why?

At the same time, this gets approved without a problem and is completely fine:


Also here are some videos of my forums experience in the past month alone:


A different seller:


Products that are not available in my region:

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More AI generated content:


Same seller, from today:


Is my opinion, everything degraded mainly because no clear line was ever drawn between the Fortnite community and the existing Unreal Engine development community, affecting the development community mostly negatively with even engine related technical forms and emails having some sort of option related to Fortnite. Not to mention the Launcher which I wouldn’t ever touch had I been able to directly download assets from the website, or how live streams slowly became less technical/informative just to cater to the new audience who would most likely find the original format to be long and boring (in comparison, I used to repeat the same 2 hour long live streams multiple times a week while working just to make sure I didn’t miss any important notes or tips - I can’t explain how much I miss the days when things were actually about the engine, art, development and innovation)

Epic Games/Fab is currently trying to put Unreal Engine and Unity hobbyists and professionals, be it developers, artists, modders, filmmakers, programmers…etc in the same room when they all have different goals, expectations, priorities, restrictions and philosophies. All while allowing AI-prompters to flood the marketplace and forums with completely useless content. All while featuring the exact same ~15 sellers since Fab was released, with the ‘relevant’ search results being the exact same products by the exact same sellers for months in a row … the experience is mediocre at best if I’m being generous.

At this point, I should blame myself for wasting any more time/effort expecting any final, official solutions to any of the issues mentioned. I should simply accept the fact that the Unreal Engine ecosystem will never be as professional as it once was. The new direction has been clear as day for the past couple of years, I just didn’t want to see it.