%100 agree. the only one more thing I wish from UE4 is a very nice quality and high performance real time GI solution. Not like current LPV. Just like the one in CryEngine. Just a couple of sliders and a sun/ moon. No fuss no muss.
Who knows with this speed maybe one day ??? One can dream…
Wow… mate… I know we are on UE4 forums, but slow down a bit…
I really wish I had a few feature from CE3 in UE4 like:
real time GI, superb render
editor designer is much better, is like you have a better version of Sketchup inside the editor
AI is super easy to use/implement, I’ve screamed several times on UE4 forums for something similar like AIPath from CE3 and no response at all, more like UE4 dev’s didn’t even bothered to reply about them.
C++ is much easy/friendly to use, UE4 is huge as code and dev’s expect us to know everything about it to do something, what’s wrong imo, I better prefer to have an simple “front/public” easy API
I am using full time UE4, but I am with an eye on CE3, especially on 3.7 update also. Mixed feelings:)
Honestly, I want Crytek to stay in the game. Just as example of last years experience, when only Unity survived as a major player, and we all know what happened with engine development, price, and asset store focus. Competition is good.
I tried all sorts of engines prior to getting UE4 (recently). I used Cryengine. Stunning graphics for sure. But lack of information and lack of tools drove me away. I was actually shocked when I subscribed to UE4 and first started looking at it. WOW. No **** comparison between the two in terms of available tools, and ease of development and deployment.
But I have read a few comments about when you cancel their subscription you loose everything. Not true, it’s just like UE4, you cancel you can still work and build with what you have, but you need to resubscribe for updates and to release.
I dont understand why people are saying Cryengine has a lack of documentation.
It documents everything perfectly well.
The only difference is, there documentation is there to be read. Not watched on youtube. Watching youtube training videos does not = documentation.
Having used Cryengine for long means i spent a lot of time reading.
Marcel should be there. I think I have just seen him there. Wait a sec.
Yeah . He is there
As much as I could understand they plan on following Epic and making twitch stream, events whatever. At least that is what I get from reading the description.
[QUOTE=
Marcel should be there. I think I have just seen him there. Wait a sec.
Yeah . He is there
As much as I could understand they plan on following Epic and making twitch stream, events whatever. At least that is what I get from reading the description.
[/QUOTE]
Disagree. CryEngine still uses the old Specular/Lambert methods for their shading. If somebody knows HOW to use Unreal properly, it can **** all over CryEngine.
CryEngine runs terribly, on almost all hardware. Does anybody remember the specs for Crysis 2 when it came out? Utterly ridiculous, in some respects they still are! Unreal scales it’s renderer to every platform, and it ALWAYS runs well. Good Graphics isn’t just about being able to light things nicely, it’s about performance as well.
Koola’s visualizations, combined with the Unreal Paris example recently put CryEngine to shame. Don’t get me wrong, it looked stunning back in it’s day, but nowadays I personally think it’s massively outclasses.
You know when Sinead O’Connor wrote that song, “Nothing compares to you”? That was about the community at unreal. bearing in mind that the forum is a free service, and you can still run into epic staff for help. That is support you can’t really put a price on. An example of it would be the way has been helping me out with my UV issues this week. As a software engineer, I have come to realize that providing good support is as important as making a good product, and the unreal engine has a community which is just so good. Reminds me of the programming forums of yesteryear before we let the hipsters in.
EDIT : Before I get private messages, I don’t think she actually wrote the song… but you know what I mean…
Well let me tell you, after trying to develop a FPS on the CE3 for nearly 3 years, I can assure you that the switch to UE4 was the greatest decision our team has have ever made.
Nothing he said was untrue, CryTek did have a mass exodus of staff last year and a lot of their development community are migrating to other engines. That’s not to say they won’t recover. In response to your points:
-UE4 has / will have an implementation of real-time GI, although it’s unclear how well this will work with foliage. There is also an experimental implementation of LPV, which is the technique used by CryEngine. In most other regards UE4’s renderer is more advanced, and it’s easier to access advanced functions through the node-based material editor. CE3’s material editor lets you assign basic maps and that’s about it. Anything else and you’re writing shaders yourself.
-I’ve never been a fan of Unreal’s BSP tools, but the general UI is more concise and well organised than CE3’s in my opinion.
-You’ve been facepalmed twice already so, I won’t.
-So you prefer to have an easy-to-use, simple way to control the engine functions without C++? Sort of like a visual scripting system? I agree, this is a system UE4 very badly needs
I think this a point that’s lost on a lot of people - CryEngine can look very pretty, but it almost always runs terribly. CryTek got away with it, because so what if 30% of people can’t run your game if you’re selling millions of copies? When you’re a small developer, that 30% matters a lot. And even when CryEngine does run on lower end machines, it requires turning a lot of important features off and it looks like something made in Unity.
Alright, I misread your post a little there. There’s nothing CryEngine does with CSG that you can’t do with UE4, though - it’s just a case of getting used to UE4’s interface. The developer of ProBuilder (Unity plugin) is planning to port it to Unreal, which would solve this problem.
