okay ill do that and ill post them here too.
The thing is if I start a new project with a starter content it works but if i create a new level in the old project it wont.
is there any way i can just copy and paste this into a new project, would selecting all the actors in the scene outliner and copy and pasting them into a new project keep everything the same, with all positions in the same place, although that could replicate the issue.
the first image is a new project and the second the existing one

