Blueprints are a toy. Which serious Unity dev would use UE4 without C#/F# or UnrealScript!?

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Oh, simply because I shipped one commercial game and a couple of DLCs for it (one of those was made by me, from ground up, including some simple programming), worked on a several larger in scope projects that didn’t pan out (although I was using inferior engines, it really has more to do with time and scope, and programming skills) and I can tell you that you will never release your game based on the scope you described. Working 3 hrs a day on a project with much smaller scope is still a challenge, even if using UE4 and not knowing it 100% (and that doesn’t even mean knowing BP inside and out).

I switched to UE4 precisely because of BP. While I still need help every now and then, and probably will need C++ programmer eventually, for larger scale projects (if I ever pursue one; or unconventional project that goes beyond UE4 BP capacities for gameplay), I have moved pretty far with my project as BP allowed me to just get to work without knowing syntax and all that required knowledge to program using conventional programming language. I couldn’t have achieved that without BP as I still would have been learning C++ or C# or whatever language.

That being said, save your grand idea for later, develop a small, really small scale idea and make it happen using one engine, whether it’s Unity or UE4 or CryEngine or whatever. You are wasting your time and else’s time by blaming UE4 and BP and trying to convince the world that C# will somehow magically would allow you to achieve the impossible. Don’t blame the car, when the problem is between the steering wheel and the seat.

I understand what you are saying. But I said that in the other thread of mine already. I’m not thinking now as a “game designer”, or “game programmer”. I do think now as a programming langue designer or tool developer. What I do shouldn’t be confused with the excuse that I don’t understand something or find it too hard.

I was making an extension for Unity called Essential State Machine. It was supposed to be a perfect mix of PlayerMaker and NodeCanvas. Obviously, this project is dead now since I’m strongly considering to stay with UE4. But I noticed back then already that such things indeed need time. I will only take notes and raise some ideas regarding UE4’s “thick” programming solution for now.
M$ is implementing a module system for C++. Let’s see how this is going to turn out. Headers are obviously not ideal for “scripting”. So a module system for C++ would change a lot.

Blame id Software for my “technological ambition”. Quake 3 wasn’t just some perfect game for me, but also an icon of technological superiority. And programming itself alsways mattered to me.

So node graphs are a toy that looks like Lego. And C++ is the hideous sister of C#.