4.14 Released!

[teak421]

@;624484

No. Flipping. Way. I have had to manually delete folders off of disk after deleting them from the Content Browser for…forever! I can’t believe Epic figured out how to remove folders, finally! (Only some sarcasm here, I really appreciate fix! :D)

I hope that means that other fundamental fixes have a hope of being addressed. Things that affect us every day. You know, like:

• Deleting assets in the Content Browser sometimes doesn’t delete them from the disk… (sounds similar to another problem we discussed recently…hmmm…)
• Undoing blueprint changes no longer crashing the engine (gets slightly better every release…)
• Changing a blueprint that is a subclass of another blueprint resets all editable variables of your blueprint instances in the level back to defaults, forcing you to quit the engine without saving your level. Again.
• No longer needing to manually handle gamepad/keyboard input navigation separately in every widget, ever. Mouse support = Awesome. Gamepad/keyboard support = laughably bad. Gamepad/keyboard should be able to navigate, hover, press, etc. just like a mouse does. You shouldn’t have to manually check the gamepad focus every tick and then fake your own events! For those asking for gamepad tutorials, the best gamepad menu guide I have ever found is one – it shows the best way to handle gamepad menu input that I have ever seen (so far). Still very laborious, unfortunately. But it mostly works.
• Having programmatic way to force a widget to be hovered, clicked etc. would enable quicker workarounds to the above gamepad problems. The events are all there…we just can’t fire them.
• Having the GetPlatformName node return tvOS instead of IOS when you are on…tvOS (they have very different requirements in practice, people).
• Some way to get what class of gamepad is being used (PS4/Xbox/MFi) – all three types have different button layouts, and all three types can connect to a , for example. Which means and HTML5 have to support all three layouts somehow…
• Real Git support that works reliably. Right now we all (in my team) quit the engine and manage our source through Git manually.
• Supported way to change input keys for project input axis/action events at runtime. (I keep meaning to give 's plugin for that a try…but it is listed as only supporting up to 4.10)
• A physics system that supports stable, at-rest physics. No matter how much I tweak depenetration, mass, offsets, sleep thresholds, etc. it is super difficult to get even the simplest geometry (box collisions) to support more than a couple objects stacked up before they start bouncing or sliding apart.
• Fully support orthogonal camera views. Ever tried using an orthogonal camera? Oh wait, you wanted to use rendering features A, B, F, Q, or W through Z? Sorry, no. Many rendering features only work in perspective. Orthogonal views are gimped. That makes 2D games in 3D space very, very difficult. Either dump rendering features or deal with constantly-shifting perspective problems.
• Support for 3D objects in widgets, so you don’t have to pose them in every level and render them to textures. Ya, I know. Now I’m really dreaming. The transparency support for render-to-texture in 4.14 looks exciting!
• Disabling “Start Awake” under physics should actually make a component…not start awake.
• etc.

I appreciate fixing these types of fundamental issues soooo much more than the fancy headline features that I don’t have time to learn to use as an indie dev. Yes, I have made answerhub posts for most of these issues. I am inspired to go through most of them and submit them again, now that the issues site is up and being linked to more.

Of course, every crash fix, ever, is also very much appreciated!

:o Keep up the good work. I’m looking forward to 4.15, as it’s supposed to be the yearly stability release. Just the kind of stuff I’m looking for.

It is also really cool that the stuff that I manage to fix and create a patch for, you usually accept my pull request. It would be even cooler if after accepting my pull requests and including them in the engine that I could be added to the list of the rest of the credited contributers. I get left out of that list for some reason. Then I could show my friends who are not under your NDA that I actually contributed. Can’t really show them the GitHub site or your source code, you know. I anticipate I’ll get on that list eventually as I submit more patches.

I know switching source control software is a giant pain in the butt, but Perforce works REALLY well in the UE4 editor…!

[anonymous_user_48f2118e]

@teak421;624981

I know switching source control software is a giant pain in the butt, but Perforce works REALLY well in the UE4 editor…!

Perhaps I should give perforce another try. Any suggestions for Perforce setups for those of us on a ?

I tried it once over a year ago and I failed to get it set up after wasting two days on it. It seemed super over-engineered. Tons of terminology to figure out just to freaking set up an empty repo. For Git (since I use it all day every day), I just found a good .gitignore file, and ran git init and hooked it up to GitHub.

[teak421]

@;624984

Perhaps I should give perforce another try. Any suggestions for Perforce setups for those of us on a ?

I tried it once over a year ago and I failed to get it set up after wasting two days on it. It seemed super over-engineered. Tons of terminology to figure out just to freaking set up an empty repo. For Git (since I use it all day every day), I just found a good .gitignore file, and ran git init and hooked it up to GitHub.

I setup an Azure Windows 2016 box and just used Perforce server: https://www.perforce.com/downloads/helix. Then, I used the Helix Desktop Client (and the UE4 editor). They have both the server and desktop in version. Never tried though… Its free for up to five developers, FYI.

[anonymous_user_b666e59e]

@;624484

It is also really cool that the stuff that I manage to fix and create a patch for, you usually accept my pull request. It would be even cooler if after accepting my pull requests and including them in the engine that I could be added to the list of the rest of the credited contributers. I get left out of that list for some reason. Then I could show my friends who are not under your NDA that I actually contributed. Can’t really show them the GitHub site or your source code, you know. I anticipate I’ll get on that list eventually as I submit more patches.

Hi ,

I apologize for missing you in the credits for pull request. There was apparently a bit of a mixup when the ticket that your pull request was correcting was closed, and the ticket tracking the pull request itself was left open. I was not aware that the changes had already been implemented. I can try to make sure you are mentioned (belatedly) in the release notes for the next version of the Engine.

I did notice that you are already included in the Engine credits, and when I looked more closely I noticed that you were mentioned in the release notes for 4.9 for a different pull request, in case you wanted to use that one to show your contributions to your friends. Thank you again for your contributions to the Engine, and we look forward to seeing what you have to contribute in the future.

[anonymous_user_48f2118e]

@;625000

Hi ,
I did notice that you are already included in the Engine credits, and when I looked more closely I noticed that you were mentioned in the release notes for 4.9 for a different pull request, in case you wanted to use that one to show your contributions to your friends. Thank you again for your contributions to the Engine, and we look forward to seeing what you have to contribute in the future.

Oh, that’s cool! I missed myself in the 4.9 notes. Thanks, ! :o

I’ll try to keep the patches coming.

[Stephen_Ellis]

@;624931

So yeah. Epic sadly broke World Composition in 4.14. I’ve done a full breakdown of the RAM usage on 4.12.5 vs. 4.14. so I can document the issue for the Epic staff to look over and fix.

Hi .

Thanks for the in-depth investigation, but I’d like to ask that you please review our “How to Report a Bug”](Einen Fehler melden - Unreal Engine) guide and post your findings to the UE4 Answerhub. The forums here are not suited to issue investigations or follow-up.

Thanks

[anonymous_user_11c1b2f9]

@Ellis;625019

Hi .

Thanks for the in-depth investigation, but I’d like to ask that you please review our “How to Report a Bug”](Einen Fehler melden - Unreal Engine) guide and post your findings to the UE4 Answerhub. The forums here are not suited to issue investigations or follow-up.

Thanks

No problem. Posted here.

World Composition 4.14. is using 6X as much Ram as in 4.12.5. HELP!

[Willard720]

@;624491

I asked in twitch comments during a livestream, and they said NO. You can’t create Maps and Sets in blueprints. But you can expose the ones in C++ to blueprints and edit them in blueprints, which is a good first step!

I would personally call it being “slightly too vague in their description”, rather than lying. I agree it’s disappointing. I was jumping out of my seat until I realized it was edit-only (since I’m 99% blueprints right now).

No, is actually not true, you can create them in blueprints! You have to go to Editor Preferences>Blueprint Editor>Experimental. Its the second option that says “Enable support for TMaps and TSets.”

After you enable it, you can head back to the blueprints and create a new var. Instead of the array button next to it, its a variable icon, (the thin ovals), and clicking on it lets you choose between an array, map, or set. If you choose map, you get to choose which class is the key, and which is the value. Granted, it is in experimental for a reason. Mine crashed the first time I tried to create a map, so be cautious I guess. But it is super nice seeing that it is in there, and they do plan on fixing all of the bugs. The UI for it is very intuitive, so I can’t wait for it to be finished. I’m not sure what other bugs it as right now, but hopefully nothing data loosing.

[anonymous_user_48f2118e]

No, is actually not true, you can create them in blueprints! You have to go to Editor Preferences>Blueprint Editor>Experimental. Its the second option that says “Enable support for TMaps and TSets.”

After you enable it, you can head back to the blueprints and create a new var. Instead of the array button next to it, its a variable icon, (the thin ovals), and clicking on it lets you choose between an array, map, or set. If you choose map, you get to choose which class is the key, and which is the value. Granted, it is in experimental for a reason. Mine crashed the first time I tried to create a map, so be cautious I guess. But it is super nice seeing that it is in there, and they do plan on fixing all of the bugs. The UI for it is very intuitive, so I can’t wait for it to be finished. I’m not sure what other bugs it as right now, but hopefully nothing data loosing.
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I am so glad to be wrong! I hope it stabilizes in 4.15!

[heartlessphil]

Ansel will bring the same problem as High res shot. From the official Ansel guide :

**4.1.3 Screen space reflections fade out with increased Highres capture resolution

There is unfortunately no workaround for problem, it is a limitation of the capture method used.**

Meh, Still unable to have good looking super high res images I suppose.

[CriErr]

Guys, i failed to find maps and sets

Data Structures (Maps and Sets)

nvm, found it.

btw, i think epic should state the state of the feature more clearly on the stream, not how awesome the feature is and what it does, but actual description from editor.

http://puu.sh/sm86U.png

[mahri726]

Very cool update. What about Geometry 2.0 ? The card was archived on . I expected to have it in release.

[KULTRA_LTD]

Thank you a lot for Midi Device Plugin!
It`s open new horizon for Midi Visualisation! I have several Midi Devices and wish to try how they connects to UE4 with Midi Device Plugin. Can you help me? I need support or reference to prepare live playing with plugin (or how to use it).

Best Regards,
Andrey

[Elvince]

@;624096

@anonymous_user_1da90bc6,

Does that means that the cook content can be shared accross platform as per card: https://.com/c/6NzsbHm1/656-done-4-14-unified-cooker-one-cooked-set-of-content-for-win–linux ?

I mean, I can cook the content once for all platform and just have to build my binaries per platform?

Thanks

By the way, awesome release! is a major one and I hope to test it soon!

Hi,

Does anyone knows if is the unified cook content accross platform?

[xDiavalx]

New: Enabled instances of Hierarchical Instanced Mesh Components to be moved around with the transform widget in the Blueprint Editor, just like Instanced Mesh Components!

• How do you do that?
  Also, any it will also be possible to do directly in the editor?

[John_Alcatraz]

Those new contact shadows look incredibly good and are incredibly cheap!

But unfortunately that’s only the case with Temporal AA enabled, without TAA they are quite choppy/unsteady. With no AA or with FXAA they look so much less great than with TAA, is there anything that can be done to fix that in future releases? I’m especially interested in if it will be possible to have them look great once they are supported in the forward renderer with MSAA.

They seem to be a great replacement for CSM in VR since they are so cheap, but TAA isn’t too nice in VR. Maybe you could make it so that the contact shadows blend together with the previous frames even with TAA disabled?

[Nerdsbeware (Snacky Otter Studios)]

For a non-VR game targeted at PC and consoles, would there be an advantage to exploring forward rendering? Sorry if that seems like a silly question, just wondering what others are doing/would do.

[anonymous_user_c94f194d]

@;625287

For a non-VR game targeted at PC and consoles, would there be an advantage to exploring forward rendering? Sorry if that seems like a silly question, just wondering what others are doing/would do.

Forward can be bit faster and also support MSAA. If you don’t need most of the screenspace features and can’t use TXAA then it might be better choise.

[hbiblia (Esmailin)]

Esta como que explotando mucho esta versión

[anonymous_user_48f2118e]

@slam_;625331

Esta como que explotando mucho esta versión

I think you are saying 4.14 crashes a lot. I launched it once on my and it crashed immediately after creating a new project based on the shooter template. So I agree.

I usually wait until 4.x.2 is released before switching to it.