# STAR ENGINE **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-Topic\ **Tags:** unreal-engine\ **Created:** [December 13, 2023, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877 "2023-12-13T08:22:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TechLord](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/techlord/32/1040563_2.png) [@TechLord](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/TechLord)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/1 "2023-12-13T08:22:39Z")
[![](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/d/2/c/d2cd4f78b4b1eaea1922adf9cb28b31b6680ec5f.jpeg "The Future of Gaming: StarEngine (4K)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWm_OhIKms8) This Tech cannot be ignored and I’m really curious how UnrealEngine will challenge it. In my opinion, this is the type of tech needed to deliver the [Superman Game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N74TmmQUTEw) Players have been begging decades for. ---
**Author:** ![TechLord](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/techlord/32/1040563_2.png) [@TechLord](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/TechLord)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/3 "2023-12-14T05:02:13Z")
I would like to think that if its of interest to Game Devs, its of interest to Epic. Especially when we talk about Metaverses, Multiverses, [MMOs](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/next-gen-mmo-plug-in-for-ue4/213726) and the likes. After all, **UnrealEngine is _The most powerful real-time 3D creation tool_.** I would use this scale and transitioning to put all my _games_ in one map and travel between them smooth in a load-screen less way both online and off. Not just levels. I’m thinking both outer and inner spaces. I’m experimenting with this idea now on a small scale, encapsulating environments within Sky Sphere/Cubes without world partitioning. I’m going 100% 3D Multiplayer shared and individual Spatial Inventory System, Shops, Customization Environments. I 1000% agree with use of Procedural Generation and Generative AI to assist in world building and entity creation no matter the scale. I’m integrating such Tech in [my own Player Collaborative Construction Tools](https://www.youtube.com/@TheGameDevStoreDotCom/playlists). In regards to my Superman fly through. Yes, its in real-time featuring a [Hyper-cinematic Camera System](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFgMtmh0GwU). Efforts towards [my Game](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRj_wus6cNtJ4MN6E1xJZmlGV8P9WxAcl). I’m using all AMD Hardware: Ryzen 9 5950 16-Core 3.4Ghz & Radeon RX 6700 XT, 32G Ram. ---
**Author:** ![ClockworkOcean](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/clockworkocean/32/1169999_2.png) [@ClockworkOcean](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/ClockworkOcean)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/4 "2023-12-14T08:14:24Z")
I second that it’s only of interest to a very narrow group of devs. Especially, as you can make a _very_ similar effect without having to model entire solar systems 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TechLord](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/techlord/32/1040563_2.png) [@TechLord](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/TechLord)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/5 "2023-12-14T09:01:30Z")
I don’t know how large or small the group of devs are who are interested. But I do know if the power is available it will get used and most likely abused. I’m very interested in discussing how similar effects can be pulled off in UE5. I can imagine using Niagara Fluids to achieve some of them. ---
**Author:** ![ClockworkOcean](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/clockworkocean/32/1169999_2.png) [@ClockworkOcean](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/ClockworkOcean)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/6 "2023-12-14T09:08:22Z")
How would fluids be used? ---
**Author:** ![TechLord](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/techlord/32/1040563_2.png) [@TechLord](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/TechLord)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/7 "2023-12-14T09:19:52Z")
Some mentioned in the SE Demo Vid: Dynamic Fire & Smoke, Dynamic Volumetric Clouds, Fluid-like Wormhole FX, Physically Based Advanced Water FX. Practically every object in the world could be driven by the Niagara Particle Systems LOL. I might challenge myself to dev a game world using only Niagara. ---
**Author:** ![TechLord](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/techlord/32/1040563_2.png) [@TechLord](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/TechLord)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/8 "2023-12-14T09:22:43Z")
[![](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/c/e/9/ce9057c546e883c18946d86a1ba9c445cc91bbcb.jpeg "Exploring the depths of the new Sky & Atmosphere system | Unreal Engine") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeNM9zBPLCA&t=1059s) ---
**Author:** ![ClockworkOcean](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/clockworkocean/32/1169999_2.png) [@ClockworkOcean](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/ClockworkOcean)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/9 "2023-12-14T09:41:01Z")
I think you could build it using only HDR A few planet meshes The normal sky atmos ( with clouds ) Planes ( instead of water system ) Level streaming If you do it right, 90% of player wouldn’t know the difference ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Wierer.Seda145](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/roy_wierer.seda145/32/906551_2.png) [@Roy\_Wierer.Seda145](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Roy_Wierer.Seda145)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/11 "2023-12-14T21:48:42Z")
It’s not convincing to see lods, landscape detail and meshes pop into existence at 20:50 at 200 meters distance before seeing a huge landscape 10KM away in (faked full detail?) Unreal already has ways of faking it, it’s impressive to see it deal with lighting correctly at small and large scale but tech is only new tech if it really deals with everything. ---
**Author:** ![TechLord](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/techlord/32/1040563_2.png) [@TechLord](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/TechLord)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/12 "2023-12-15T18:32:58Z")
> [@game-maker](#): > > @TechLord, still addicted to buying things on the marketplace??? 🤣 If so, ever tried these or similar packs? I possess Shader World, however, I have yet to use it within my asset horde. Worldscape looks really cool but I need the pricepoint to cool down. LOL. I’m not just interested in outer space, im also Interested in inner space at the micro, nano, quantum scales. _Think Star Trek and Fantastic Voyage have a Baby._ Would entering a Cell the scale of a Planet be rendered in the same fashion as entering a Celestial Planet? ---
**Author:** ![jwatte](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/jwatte/32/744941_2.png) [@jwatte](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/jwatte)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/13 "2023-12-15T20:10:04Z")
This is CryEngine 3 with some additions, right? “Large nominal units” is very different from “large scales of objects” – this demo shows mostly the former, which really isn’t that hard with some camera/perspective tricks; the latter is much harder. Seamless distance travel is largely a question of defining transition points and shifting/scaling coordinate systems. To be fair, Kerbal Space Program (version 1, the only good version) also does most of this 😃 – on top of Unity! It’s more of a production problem, than an engine problem. (But the 64-bit coordinates we got in 5.0 help!) Having built a full-earth simulation and rendering MMO engine in the past (sold to the US Government) I can tell you that normal players don’t actually want “earth scale.” The earth is massively, vastly, full of stuff that has no gameplay value. And there’s no reason a “virtual” earth should be the size, or even shape, of the real earth – the whole point of “virtual” is to make something that works better for some use cases than “real.” Real distances between cities is boring. Real city sizes are boring. Real planet sizes are boring. Luckily, this game has compressed most of that, as will any game. They also have a lot of content at this point, and content is king! I think the Star Citizen developers are cool for chasing their dream, despite all the various ups and downs, and I’m happy to see them finding ways to keep that going, but if I were to build a universe-scale game today (or even just Kerbal Space Program 3) I’d do it on Unreal. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Wierer.Seda145](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/roy_wierer.seda145/32/906551_2.png) [@Roy\_Wierer.Seda145](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Roy_Wierer.Seda145)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:41pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/star-engine/1521877/15 "2023-12-16T23:41:47Z")
> [@game-maker](#): > > What if you feed the AI models images of Renaissance Italy… Aztec-Mayan-Inca culture… Ancient Greece / Rome… South East Asia Temples… Fuse all that with sci-fi concept art. What do you get? Star Wars? hehe. Reminds me of Battlefront 2. > [@jwatte](#): > > Having built a full-earth simulation and rendering MMO engine in the past (sold to the US Government) I can tell you that normal players don’t actually want “earth scale.” The earth is massively, vastly, full of stuff that has no gameplay value. And there’s no reason a “virtual” earth should be the size, or even shape, of the real earth – the whole point of “virtual” is to make something that works better for some use cases than “real.” That is really cool. I tried to get into procedural city and building layout sim for a world and learnt it’s a lot more complex than it sounds to get results like real life. The one and only game I can think of (but great example) that could be earth size and work is [Project Zomboid](https://youtu.be/Z8HltW6RY1g?t=1368), because it turns every corner into a story. (I considered minecraft but… no)