# Splines freeze editor if you delete all but the first point and then try to move it. 4.8.1

**URL:** <https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/splines-freeze-editor-if-you-delete-all-but-the-first-point-and-then-try-to-move-it-4-8-1/324089>\
**Category:** World Creation\
**Tags:** freeze, unreal-engine, crash, hang, Spline, question\
**Created:** [July 4, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/splines-freeze-editor-if-you-delete-all-but-the-first-point-and-then-try-to-move-it-4-8-1/324089 "2015-07-04T20:04:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![anonymous\_user\_1bd56d86](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@anonymous\_user\_1bd56d86](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/anonymous_user_1bd56d86)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/splines-freeze-editor-if-you-delete-all-but-the-first-point-and-then-try-to-move-it-4-8-1/324089/1 "2015-07-04T20:04:03Z")

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If you create a new blueprint class, add a spline component and add it to your scene it will spawn with 2 points. If you delete the last point, leaving only the first point and then try to move that point, it will crash and hang immediately. Memory goes through the roof and I have to force close to exit.

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**Author:** ![anonymous\_user\_b9532c9a](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@anonymous\_user\_b9532c9a](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/anonymous_user_b9532c9a)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/splines-freeze-editor-if-you-delete-all-but-the-first-point-and-then-try-to-move-it-4-8-1/324089/2 "2015-07-07T15:28:31Z")

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Hi ,

I was able to reproduce this and have entered a bug report, UE-18246 to be assessed by the development staff.

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**Author:** ![anonymous\_user\_9012b75d](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@anonymous\_user\_9012b75d](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/anonymous_user_9012b75d)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/splines-freeze-editor-if-you-delete-all-but-the-first-point-and-then-try-to-move-it-4-8-1/324089/3 "2016-11-21T13:08:34Z")

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This seems to still be present in UE 4.13.0.

Is there an update on fixing this problem?

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**Author:** ![TJ\_V](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/tj_v/32/1008648_2.png) [@TJ\_V](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/TJ_V)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/splines-freeze-editor-if-you-delete-all-but-the-first-point-and-then-try-to-move-it-4-8-1/324089/4 "2016-12-02T21:19:14Z")

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Hi ,

The bug report mentioned was fixed back in 4.9. I attempted to reproduce the crash in 4.13 using the steps that provided above but I couldn’t get it to happen.

If you are still getting this crash in 4.13.2 or 4.14, please provide additional info on how you are reproducing it and I’ll be more than happy to continue investigating.

Cheers,

TJ

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**Author:** ![Mikevandoorne](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@Mikevandoorne](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Mikevandoorne)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/splines-freeze-editor-if-you-delete-all-but-the-first-point-and-then-try-to-move-it-4-8-1/324089/5 "2017-12-10T20:06:50Z")

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Even in 4.15.1 and 4.18 , any spline i use just makes ue4 freeze and/or have huge RAM spikes, or crash.  
In short, i’m not able to use anything spline related.