# Loading Screen as a Map, Why Is It Not Good? **URL:** \ **Category:** Community & Industry Discussion\ **Tags:** unreal-engine\ **Created:** [February 25, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/loading-screen-as-a-map-why-is-it-not-good/56444 "2016-02-25T14:36:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Achilleon](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@Achilleon](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Achilleon)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/loading-screen-as-a-map-why-is-it-not-good/56444/1 "2016-02-25T14:36:54Z")
Hello everyone! I have been thinking about a loading screen. From my non-coder way of thinking, a simple map that is present as loading screen while the proper level is being created is a fine solution. But I see that people are searching for various solutions. My question is simply this: Why? I do not see the problem of having a seperate map telling the gameplay map to load and fade away after finishing. Can anyone give me an insight on what are the bads and goods of “loading screen map”? Thanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Aquazi](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@Aquazi](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Aquazi)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/loading-screen-as-a-map-why-is-it-not-good/56444/2 "2016-02-25T16:02:16Z")
> **[Menu – In-Game Loading Screen | Shooter Tutorial](http://shootertutorial.com/2015/11/01/menu-in-game-loading-screen/)** > > This post is important because it will cover Unreal Engine 4 streaming system which is powerful and everyone should learn how to use it. In this Tutorial I will show you guys how to create in-game loading screen using streaming. > **[A new, community-hosted Unreal Engine Wiki](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/a-new-community-hosted-unreal-engine-wiki/141494)** > > After over a year in maintenance mode, the official Unreal Engine Wiki is now permanently offline. These resources now live on a new community-run Unreal Engine Community Wiki — ue4community.wiki! You will be able to find content from the official... ---
**Author:** ![Achilleon](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@Achilleon](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Achilleon)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/loading-screen-as-a-map-why-is-it-not-good/56444/3 "2016-02-25T17:22:50Z")
Thank you but I am not looking for how to implement it, rather what are the downsides of it and why people are searching for different routes. ---
**Author:** ![Jambax](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/jambax/32/904177_2.png) [@Jambax](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Jambax)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/loading-screen-as-a-map-why-is-it-not-good/56444/4 "2016-02-25T20:06:14Z")
Because it defeats the purpose of having a loading screen at all. Depending on how big the world you’re currently in is, you’ll still experience a hangup / freeze while you load into the temporary world while the old world get’s removed from memory. A loading screen is supposed to be just that, it’s supposed to block all vision of the game while it does all the loading and ugly stuff in the background. Loading to a different world between main worlds is just wasteful, and it doesn’t really fix the issue that is the main blocking call between worlds. Additionally, you still can’t have anything more than just a static image unless you’re prepared to do a lot of workarounds. Some people choose to do it with streaming levels, but that requires a complex streaming setup in most cases. The second link posted above is a tutorial I wrote and it’s less than 20 lines of code, it’s more than worth it to have a clean loading transition. ---
**Author:** ![Achilleon](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@Achilleon](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Achilleon)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/loading-screen-as-a-map-why-is-it-not-good/56444/6 "2016-02-25T23:03:00Z")
I understand now, thank you for the information. I will think about this. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Luftbauch](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@Luftbauch](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Luftbauch)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/loading-screen-as-a-map-why-is-it-not-good/56444/7 "2016-02-25T23:09:44Z")
I use a map/level for gamestart/mainmenue and i am happy with the result. I locked player movement there, but mouselook with rmb is free. Game loads about 5 secs. so far and after the mainscreen, again around 6 sec for first real level. For now, i do not even need a loading screen for that short time, but sure it goes up for the reallevel, when everything is in place. [![](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/8/2/3/823aa74413d376a75639dd6e6245d2d98d9900d4.jpeg "Startscreen Menue Thing for Beams Indiegamedev with UE4") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB-Lcmb2hHM) Greetings 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jambax](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/user_avatar/forums.unrealengine.com/jambax/32/904177_2.png) [@Jambax](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Jambax)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/loading-screen-as-a-map-why-is-it-not-good/56444/8 "2016-02-26T09:37:03Z")
It’s also worth mentioning this here, Unreal is a bit strange in some respects - in that you have to be inside a _world_ or level to have any form of interaction with the game. A lot of other engines don’t have this requirement but it’s just the way Unreal works. Having levels for menu’s etc. is absolutely fine, it’s the intended (and really the only) workflow for Unreal. Gears of war did it, Unreal Tournament does it - all Unreal games use this approach. For loading screens though it’s different. Think of it this way, you want the player to experience the shortest loading times possible right? No matter how pretty the loading screen is, the players are always going to hate it. On non-PC platforms you nearly always have very limited memory to play with, so you need to use it as broadly as you can and opening unnecessary levels is a quick way to run out! (Gears of War 1 & 2 used world-based loading levels though, 3 did not). This is what it makes me think of. (finally got around to making this): ![cf6dbfeb81f3be13d535d48d974a450c3fbebe35.jpeg](https://d1ap1mz92jnks1.cloudfront.net/images/transparent.png)