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I have, and I’ve made multiple posts from mobile. Click the progress bar to access the post scrollbar.

I’m using the site right now. It loads multiple posts quickly in one go. You can also watch my video. Same thing.

I’m assuming you mean “copy the code from the site and run it yourself”. What I meant is presentation (what we see), not internal (what we can’t see). I couldn’t care less how it’s implemented internally as long as it does it fast (which it does; faster than a page load would take).

maybe you don’t understand so let me put it in all caps for you.
THE PAGE LOAD IS NOT ANY FASTER, IT’S ACTUALLY EXPONENTIALLY SLOWER

I really don’t care about “what you think” there is absolutely NO WAY that loading things separately is actually faster than a single query.
EVER. PERIOD.
end of discussion.

OR go argue with W3C specs and Database Architects about it - possibly on the Discourse website so maybe they learn something…

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Then stop making it your arguing point about page vs post loading times. Neither forums are running on the same server configuration, location or provider. I asked what relevancy your page loading time had to do with anything. Objectivity went out the window.

This is bordering on forum fanboyism. I don’t like Discourses format in the slightest. It’s trying to be a long form chat room.

There’s a misunderstanding here. You’re referring to the under-the-hood stuff (stuff the user doesn’t see or is even aware of). I’m referring to what the user actually sees & interacts with.

Here’s what I mean by faster (from the perspective of the user):

  1. The next set of posts are automatically added to the page before the user has finished reading the current set of posts (i.e. user does not have to click anything to load more posts).
  2. Posts all exist on one page, so the user doesn’t have to switch between pages to read posts (i.e. the user can jump straight to them).
  3. Posts that are made as the user is reading the thread are added to the page without requiring a refresh (i.e. the page updates itself rather than the user having to manually refresh to see updates).

Hopefully you get what I mean, now.

None of these are my opinions. They’re all literally how the site works, independent of what I (or anybody) “thinks” of it.


The faster you can load posts (as in, put them on screen), the faster you can read posts. That’s why that’s relevant.

Also, when you say “objectivity went out the window,” please explain in why. Saying “objectivity went out the window” and not explaining why is useless to me.

Now, I don’t hate it, nor do I like it; I’m indifferent. If I had to pick one, it would be like. Why? Because (1) posts automatically load themselves, and (2) I can jump to specific posts in a thread without switching between pages. Simple as that.

If they switched back to the old forums tomorrow, I wouldn’t care the slightest. I’d miss not being able to scroll & jump a thread without having to click through pages, but it’s not a big deal. :man_shrugging:

Also, I never knew Discourse was a thing until after Epic updated the forums (I literally learned about it in this thread). I had been on forums that used Discourse before (and didn’t like them, either), but I had never had heard of it until now.

Just to be clear on this one, loading only the posts when switching pages was a thing in the old forums.

See here. Epic should offer a choice a page-view vs scrollbar as its clearly possible right now!

Not always. In long valuable threads, its often easier to open pages in multiple browser tabs. As you’re less likely to miss crucial info (too easy to scroll past posts when so much Discourse screen-space is already wasted). Plus CTRL-F searches on keywords / dev-names don’t work reliably on dynamic pages. That’s why Discourse tries to grab Find functionality from the browser, which is bad practice anyway, as it leaves users exposed to privacy / security risks!

Hardly. For users with 1000’s of past posts on here along with webpage redirects, that’s pretty unhelpful advice tbh. My previous sig redirected new users to the best free creators in Community-Tools. That’s all lost now, and it feels like a bit of an injustice to those devs who deserve more credit from Epic than they get. Its also not very friendly to new users starting out obviously, as any past posts from 7+ years containing the words ‘See Sig’ - are now all broken!

Agreed. Makes sense to give the user a choice for that.

I get your point. All I can say is that if you know you have a problem absorbing so much content, take it upon yourself to manage the amount of content you absorb; remember: you’re the one who’s doing the scrolling, not the forum. For example, if you can only read 10 posts at a time, take breaks every 10 posts, absorb what you’ve read so far, then continue (this is the type of a basic skill you learn in school).

Also, you can just open the post itself in a new tab by right or middle-mouse clicking the post’s number.

How do you manage to scroll past information that fills more than half the screen (on normal font)?

As for wasted space, what do you suggest it should be filled with?

Yes, a lot of stuff is broken from the switch (my posts are missing attachments as well). All I can say is that if something is missing information you need, ask on the forum again; ask the person who made the post you need (once again, the type of basic stuff you learn in school). Just because a post is missing links, images, videos, or attachments doesn’t mean the solution is just “gone forever”.

Text on pages could be a lot wider. Compare the forums with JS-on vs JS-off. Most of the space on the left / right of posts is simply lost with JS-on. Plus CTRL-F doesn’t work properly. So if you want to jump to crucial posts by certain devs such as posts by Epic, you find yourself having to drag the scrollbar up / down repeatedly to force full page loads. So overall, longer threads like this one, or basically anything above 10 posts, is easier to read with JS-off or in Page-View. However, there’s no go to Last-Page / First-Page option anymore, so that’s a PITA. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

This isn’t 2014-2016. You’d be lucky to get a reply from devs on here anymore. A lot are still logging in, but not a lot post on here anymore, as was discussed here. So as regards basic stuff you learn in school… Drop the headmaster sounding tone dude and stop being so naive. :grinning:

There’s NO Last Page option in Page-View (JS-off), which is the point being made here. :wink: As regards the other stuff. Sweeping generalizations aren’t necessary. We’re just having a discussion. This has escalated more than necessary. Lets just keep things friendly, alright? :+1:

The fact that you think you are helping is hilarious.

All you are doing is wasting time. Yours is certainly Ok to be wasted however you want.

Everyone else’s not so much…

@AntiGravity
I find it funny how he’s literally pickin fights with both of us across different topics, for different things. I would suggest just ignoring.
I’m not sure about your work load, but mine doesn’t currently allow me the proper time to waste after nonsensical ego trips XD

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In mobile / basic browser view (no JS / JS disabled). Everything, every single thread / post is organized into PAGES (no scrollbars). Therefore the forums could use a Last Page option there. :wink:

Yea because there’s an earth shattering difference between the sign-up date and your own statement that you came back 3 months ago.

Whatever makes you feel better bro :wink:

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Why are @midgunner66 flagged and hidden? He seems have quite reasonable tone in his posts while MostHost_LA seems to be the one with aggressive attitude… ? I am confused about this? Are there some double standards when it comes to moderation of this forum? Or is this something automated?

Midgunner is just expressing his frustration with the forum while MostHost_LA always keeps bending the discussion towards ad hominem, discussing the person, rather than the ideas about the inanimate object (the forum).

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I’m just as off topic as he is. No more no less.

Honestly, its been at least 20 posts since anything relevant to the forum’s need for improvement has been brought up.

It would indeed be nice if the discussion were to stay on topic, but that’s essentially impossible when at every turn someone says “that’s not a missing feature, that’s user error” or other similar and utterly unhelpful BS.

Currently the forum hasn’t seen a functionality upgrade, the performance has degraded further, and apparently having a YouTube link on a thread locks the page up across at least 2 mobile browsers…
I’m not even sure why, nor do I care. Epic surely doesn’t seem to either.

You can bet that the discussion will degenerate again in short order…

Forums aren’t something that should require effort to use. If I am working for 12 hours straight on a project and I need some piece if vital info I have 0 tolerance for friction in the process of obtaining that infornation. Sure you can scroll through the infinite scroll to find the info you need etc. but why turn a 2 click process into a 5 click process for the sake of aesthetics? It’s dumb and no professional users appreciate it.

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BUG:
New PM notifications don’t seem to work right now. Anyone else seeing this at all???
PM’s aren’t showing up anymore in any of the Forum Notifications panels anywhere.
This was working a couple of weeks ago (new forums). Something got broken maybe…

Your public profile is hidden… can’t even try to send you a PM XD
Oh, and reply didn’t tag you. So…
@UnrealEnterprise let’s see if this notifies you.

Replies / Likes / @ Pings all seem to be working fine as before. Its just PM’s it seems.
From within Messages click-on ‘New Message’, lookup the username and hit message. :+1:

@Amanda.Schade
@VictorLerp

BUG1:
PM Notifications aren’t working reliably. Thanks to @MostHost_LA for helping test this.

BUG2:
DELETED POSTS have returned like undead zombies since the forum switch. Example.

BUG3:
Work-In-Progress threads ^above^ with 100’s of posts highlight forum lag (dynamic page loading poor browser performance), versus offering a Page-View option. Disabling JavaScript forces the forums into Page-View mode anyway. So why not offer this option in Preferences?

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