# Can you simulate cloth without apex?

**URL:** <https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/can-you-simulate-cloth-without-apex/362080>\
**Category:** World Creation\
**Tags:** simulate-physics, APEX, apex-cloth, simulate, unreal-engine, simulation, question\
**Created:** [June 26, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/can-you-simulate-cloth-without-apex/362080 "2016-06-26T19:28:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_XGood](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@The\_XGood](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/The_XGood)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/can-you-simulate-cloth-without-apex/362080/1 "2016-06-26T19:28:25Z")

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I am aware that I _Could_ use apex but I would greatly prefer not to. I would simply like to simulate an object as though made of cloth. Is it possible to do so, or must I use Apex?

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**Author:** ![Tim\_Hobson](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@Tim\_Hobson](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/Tim_Hobson)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/can-you-simulate-cloth-without-apex/362080/2 "2016-06-27T19:46:59Z")

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Hi The XGood,

It’s not difficult to setup in the material to drive animating/moving the geometry to make it appear like cloth. We have an example of this in our Content Examples project that is located on the Epic Games Launcher.

When you open Content Examples you can open the Material\_Advanced.umap and navigate down to Stand 1.4 to see the Vertex Animation.

![96284-clothvertexanimation.gif](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/0/5/a/05ad5bd9db9da6090228089b024eba0a9a5b40bd.gif)

However, if you’re still wanting an physically accurate simulation then APEX Cloth is the way to go. The example above is just a material driving the animation of the verts.

I hope this helps.

Tim

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**Author:** ![The\_XGood](https://d3kjluh73b9h9o.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/8/5/28502927f1d97ba1051b3b47ccfe17233bf41ef0.png) [@The\_XGood](https://forums.unrealengine.com/u/The_XGood)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 1:34am UTC](https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/can-you-simulate-cloth-without-apex/362080/3 "2016-07-02T01:34:53Z")

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Thank you for your reply.