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    Originally posted by nanthrox View Post
    I excuse myself for threatening that way. I did not mean to threaten anybody but at the time of reading your support request, where you said that you do not accept our copyright and license terms, I felt heavily threatened as well and just wanted to defend our product, in any ways.
    That's kind of like walking down the street and spontaneously kicking a 6'5" bodybuilder in the nuts because he "looked at you".

    I'd ask that you at least unban my license and transfer it to someone here on this thread, as a gift, as a show of sincerity and good faith.

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      I am sorry but the license cannot be transferred to another person. Your account has been reactivated, feel free to use World Creator.

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        Appreciated, but I can't use it because of the EULA, and my little devteam disbanded following the ensuing fiasco. That kind of was the entire problem to begin with.

        I'm fairly sure it can be transferred, or a similar outcome achieved; only you guys focus too much on the short-term and perceive it as a financial loss, and therefore don't want to bother... It's a real shame you guys care so much more about money than you do about your clients. If the software truly felt "like a child" to its developers, and they were proud of it, and a paying customer who couldn't use it - and was denied a refund - requested it be gifted to a stranger 2 weeks before xmas, then I imagine most passionate developers would relish the opportunity to share their proud creation with others. Really seems like you're trying to maximize immediate income at the expense of everything else, reputation, exposure... another person testing it during beta? It's your business, so run it how you see fit.

        I stand by my original warning - be very cautious when dealing with this company. Hopefully their business philosophy will have improved a few years after posting this.

        Be safe & have a great new year everyone.

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          Could you please describe what points in the EULA you cannot confirm with and why you cannot cofirm with them? It would help a lot if I can understand what in the EULA is not matching your expectations. Maybe there are some things we did miss or did not thought about but and we are willing to adapt if possible.

          I am sorry that you think such bad of us - actually we are very open minded and I explained my thoughts about your refund request regarding the unacceptable EULA. I also excused for my harsh answer and I am willing to help you out if I just would know what exactly is wrong with the EULA.

          We have a great community and actually we really care for our customers. We have a discord channel where we even talk with our customers every day. I really need to understand what is wrong with the EULA - let me know about your concerns and then we can see what we can do about it

          Hope that helps,
          Stefan

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            Nothing special with this EULA - standard things. I don't understand the problem. I use WC huh for few years Unity/Unreal/ Old standalone version. I send few friends to their support and never had problems even in complicated case like Unity billing credit card error, they solve even such ****** issues from stores for my friends... so hmm I woudn;t even expect that they will carry and fight with store in such cases.

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              Well this drama scared me off even considering this software. If some asks for a refund, just give it to them and keep moving. People get too hung up on one sale.

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                Sad to hear that ...

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                  I'd chalk this up to a HUGE misunderstanding on pretty much both sides and things just escalated. The software seems solid and looks to be getting better all the time. If you are worried about specific areas of the EULA, just ask outright. If your worried that your game content might get you in trouble with a standard EULA, you might just ask if that would be the case. I for one will be buying soon, and moving on with things!

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                    You shall use World Creator 2.0 - CURRENT in compliance with all applicable laws and not for any unlawful purpose. Without limiting the foregoing, use, display or distribution of World Creator 2.0 - CURRENT together with material that is pornographic, racist, vulgar, obscene, defamatory, libelous, abusive, promoting hatred, discriminating or displaying prejudice based on religion, ethnic heritage, race, sexual orientation or age is strictly prohibited.
                    Did anyone ever clarify this?
                    Just to give a quick example: let's say Dragon Age (any) landscapes were created using WC, since there's a lot of discrimination (and slavery) going on in those games with elves, then there's also sex in it (and vulgar and obscene language) and maybe even more cited by this part of the EULA, would they lawyer up against EA? Of course not, they'll be crushed, but what I mean is: would they be lawfully entitled to sue them?

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                      Been looking at this for a while since it's very interesting and would fit a ongoing project well.

                      But seeing a company respond to any kind of emails with words of lawyer/prosecution is a big big warning. I'm old enough to been around the business knowing just how some companies do business with threats and lawyers.

                      And there is nothing more important to stay away from as a indie developer. It's outright dangerous to get involved with that attitude.

                      So sad to see this. And glad it got posted or others to see. Completely sick of this kind of attitude in the business. And will stay clear of this project for now.

                      Good luck and hope the developers/company learns a lesson.

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                        Originally posted by BardicKnowledge View Post

                        Did anyone ever clarify this?
                        Just to give a quick example: let's say Dragon Age (any) landscapes were created using WC, since there's a lot of discrimination (and slavery) going on in those games with elves, then there's also sex in it (and vulgar and obscene language) and maybe even more cited by this part of the EULA, would they lawyer up against EA? Of course not, they'll be crushed, but what I mean is: would they be lawfully entitled to sue them?
                        Well we thought more on real-world stuff but on fantasy stuff

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                          nanthrox Kinda off topic. But do you guys have any release dates for Unreal 4.19 compatible plugin? Since the preview is already out i was wondering if there was a way you guys could help us incorporate world creator 2 into our game. We're shooting for 4.19 to be the version of unreal we use for release

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                            I am also looking at going either World creator or World machine. Before deciding I would want to know whether :

                            *1 That part of The Eula "material that is pornographic, racist, vulgar, obscene, defamatory, libelous, abusive, promoting hatred, discriminating or displaying prejudice based on religion, ethnic heritage, race, sexual orientation or age is strictly prohibited." will be amended as in, an original creation, aiming at 18+ with likely violence, nudity etc.. (ie: something akin to the witcher) need not be worried about using the software.

                            *2 That the plugin between world creator and Unreal will be available for 4.18 as well as subsequent versions. Not everyone is jumping to 4.19 mid production and nor every plug in will be updated to 4.19.

                            *3 Finally if I understand right WC2 can export tiled landscape with Splatmaps etc.. to Unreal?.

                            Thanks

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                              Originally posted by sweetdardo View Post
                              I am also looking at going either World creator or World machine. Before deciding I would want to know whether :

                              *1 That part of The Eula "material that is pornographic, racist, vulgar, obscene, defamatory, libelous, abusive, promoting hatred, discriminating or displaying prejudice based on religion, ethnic heritage, race, sexual orientation or age is strictly prohibited." will be amended as in, an original creation, aiming at 18+ with likely violence, nudity etc.. (ie: something akin to the witcher) need not be worried about using the software.

                              *2 That the plugin between world creator and Unreal will be available for 4.18 as well as subsequent versions. Not everyone is jumping to 4.19 mid production and nor every plug in will be updated to 4.19.

                              *3 Finally if I understand right WC2 can export tiled landscape with Splatmaps etc.. to Unreal?.

                              Thanks
                              Use Gaea it is better then both of them


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                                Originally posted by jojo8026 View Post

                                Use Gaea it is better then both of them

                                I'd have to see more details on Gaea, and if it will meet my needs.

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