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    A good computer to carry UE4 on

    Hey guys, how's going?

    Today I have a Core 2 Quad Q8400, 4GB RAM DDR2, GeFoce GTS 250 1GB 128bits PCI Express, 500GB HD Sata II as my personal machine that I work on UE4. Simple and few Actors runs smoothly, but as the things grow, I terrify myself because I have no performance.

    I'm not good with hardware at all. I know some PC's components but I am not updated with the lastest. I just wanna know your enviroment (hardware) specifications - if possible, of course - and how it runs UE4. Smoothly? Badly? And if your configuration is not so far from mine, have you a good config to suggest?

    What I was thinking about:
    • Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5Ghz, 8MB, LGA 1150 c/ Intel HD Graphics (4th gen) - BX80646I74770K
    • RAM Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz CMZ16GX3M2A1600C11
    • HD 500GB SATA III
    • GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost
    • Corsair ATX 750W Modular CS750M CP-9020078-WW (Is that enough to the rest of the configuration?)
    • MB ASUS to Intel P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Box, with iControl, Smart DIGI+, USB 3.0, GPU Boost


    The problem? The price. I'll buy all products in Brazil, and here if you don't know yet, EVERYTHING is VERY expensive, specially electronics and computers. In this config, I'll spend something about US$1.700,00 (R$4.080,00) and that's too much money!

    So, can someone customize/mix the configuration for me? Maybe with AMD technologies equivalents (that I never used before (is it good?)). Or, at least, help me with some hints or tricks?

    I'm waiting for answers.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by chiefGui; 03-21-2014, 08:32 AM.
    Give me something to believe in.

    #2
    http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nebu...ger/saved/45VW

    This is the build I'm thinking of doing in a few months. $1635.41 CAD is about R$3386.40. What's your tax rate? I could figure out totals.

    As for expense, being Canadian, I know that feeling. It sucks.

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      #3
      i5? I saw AMD FX 9370 Black Edition Octa Core 4.4GHz 4.7GHz Max Turbo 16MB AM3+ FD9370FHHKWOF and it's about US$299,00. Seriously that AMD is far from Intel? :/

      And yes, expenses are sucks, hehe. Anyway, for comparison propose, exactly the same processor (Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor) in Brazil costs R$976,90 (source from the cheapest store). So, let's do some math.

      R$1,00 = US$2,32 (commercial)

      For today, buying the processor in the store you posted, it will cost R$600.88 without taxes - just converting. If we subtract to reach the difference between real value and converted value, we see R$376.02. Something about US$63,00 are government taxes.
      Give me something to believe in.

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        #4
        Originally posted by chiefGui View Post
        i5? I saw AMD FX 9370 Black Edition Octa Core 4.4GHz 4.7GHz Max Turbo 16MB AM3+ FD9370FHHKWOF and it's about US$299,00. Seriously that AMD is far from Intel? :/

        And yes, expenses are sucks, hehe. Anyway, for comparison propose, exactly the same processor (Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor) in Brazil costs R$976,90 (source from the cheapest store). So, let's do some math.

        R$1,00 = US$2,32 (commercial)

        For today, buying the processor in the store you posted, it will cost R$600.88 without taxes - just converting. If we subtract to reach the difference between real value and converted value, we see R$376.02. Something about US$63,00 are government taxes.
        PCPartPicker generally finds the cheapest eTailer to buy from, but they don't have a Brasilian site which is unfortunate, and holy Hell, that's a massive difference. Is the rest import tariffs or something like that, or just artificial price bumps as in Canada's case? That's ridiculous.
        Last edited by Nebulon Ranger; 03-21-2014, 09:01 AM.

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          #5
          People are picking super CPUs and forget that UE4 is really hunger for GPU power.
          I would recommend at least GTX 770. Nothing below that.
          https://github.com/iniside/ActionRPGGame - Action RPG Starter kit. Work in Progress. You can use it in whatever way you wish.

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            #6
            Originally posted by iniside View Post
            People are picking super CPUs and forget that UE4 is really hunger for GPU power.
            I would recommend at least GTX 770. Nothing below that.
            The 770 is literally $60-75 more everywhere for at most a 20% gain over the EVGA 760 SC or a 15% over the 760 FTW. It's not worth it.

            http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/Nebu...ger/saved/453W

            I swapped the 760 SC out for an ASUS 770. $80 more expensive. EGVA 770 SC is even more expensive. Imagine how much a 770 is in Brasil.

            You have to think about budget being an issue and in many cases the broader use of a PC. In my case I'm also going to be using it for digital audio production, so I need a "super CPU."
            Last edited by Nebulon Ranger; 03-21-2014, 09:14 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nebulon Ranger View Post
              PCPartPicker generally finds the cheapest eTailer to buy from, but they don't have a Brasilian site which is unfortunate, and holy Hell, that's a massive difference. Is the rest import tariffs or something like that, or just artificial price bumps as in Canada's case? That's ridiculous.
              Yes, unfortunately they don't have brazilian stores. I tried to search an equal social computer-hardware site, but nothing found.

              By the bye, hell yeah! It's a massive difference! And nope, is not import tariffs nor price bumps. Are both. Really ridiculous.

              Originally posted by iniside View Post
              People are picking super CPUs and forget that UE4 is really hunger for GPU power.
              I would recommend at least GTX 770. Nothing below that.
              Jesus Christ! My GTS 250 is old but until now everything is going okay with UE4, but I feel that I need more power. Anyway, I'm with Nebulon Ranger. In Brazil US$150,00 do all the difference and pay more than 100% (yes! 100% in Brazil) to gain at most 20% of performance isn't a big deal for me.
              Give me something to believe in.

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                #8
                Originally posted by chiefGui View Post
                Jesus Christ! My GTS 250 is old but until now everything is going okay with UE4, but I feel that I need more power. Anyway, I'm with Nebulon Ranger. In Brazil US$150,00 do all the difference and pay more than 100% (yes! 100% in Brazil) to gain at most 20% of performance isn't a big deal for me.
                I corrected myself, it's $60-80 more (and in the case of the EVGA 770 SC, $110) for what amounts to a 20-25% increase (~10400 vs the 760SC's 8869) over the 760 SC in 3DMark 11. Still not exactly the best bang/buck.

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                  Originally posted by Nebulon Ranger View Post
                  I corrected myself, it's $60-80 more (and in the case of the EVGA 770 SC, $110) for what amounts to a 20-25% increase (~10400 vs the 760SC's 8869) over the 760 SC in 3DMark 11. Still not exactly the best bang/buck.
                  No problem. "US$60~US$80" is around 60% increasing in the price in Brazil. Still not being a big deal.
                  Give me something to believe in.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chiefGui View Post
                    No problem. "US$60~US$80" is around 60% increasing in the price in Brazil. Still not being a big deal.
                    I'm talking in CAD, which is worth less than the US Dollar. We Canucks pay about $10-20 more than the US for everything before import tariffs, federal and provincial (or in some cases both like n Ontario. HST is the devil.) taxes, so it averages out in Ontario to be $50-60 more than the US as a benchmark for new GPUs. Then there's the artificial bumps f like $25-50 to "account for exchange rate" or "encourage buying Canadian" (aka rip us off).

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nebulon Ranger View Post
                      I'm talking in CAD, which is worth less than the US Dollar. We Canucks pay about $10-20 more than the US for everything before import tariffs, federal and provincial (or in some cases both like n Ontario. HST is the devil.) taxes, so it averages out in Ontario to be $50-60 more than the US as a benchmark for new GPUs. Then there's the artificial bumps f like $25-50 to "account for exchange rate" or "encourage buying Canadian" (aka rip us off).
                      Got it. Yeah dude, we're almost in the same situation, hehe. But, what we can do, right? Anyhow, thanks for your help. ("account for exchange rate" or "encourage buying Canadian") are the excuses here too, and you made me laugh, lol)

                      Finally, what do you think of AMD Octa-Core?
                      Give me something to believe in.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by chiefGui View Post
                        Got it. Yeah dude, we're almost in the same situation, hehe. But, what we can do, right? Anyhow, thanks for your help. ("account for exchange rate" or "encourage buying Canadian") are the excuses here too, and you made me laugh, lol)

                        Finally, what do you think of AMD Octa-Core?
                        The FX 9000 line, despite being essentially overclocked 8350s, are monsters of CPUs. In many cases, for productivity, they'll smash the 4670k. However they draw a lot of power (225W) and generate a lot of heat, so a good water cooler like a Corsair H100i or a Kraken X60 is pretty much required. I'm just looking into a 4670k because it's overall cheaper.

                        And no problem.

                        I'd also pick up a 1TB HDD rather than a 500GB, the Caviar Blue line has comparable performance to the Black for half the price.
                        Last edited by Nebulon Ranger; 03-21-2014, 09:42 AM.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nebulon Ranger View Post
                          The FX 9000 line, despite being essentially overclocked 8350s, are monsters of CPUs. In many cases, for productivity, they'll smash the 4670k. However they draw a lot of power (225W) and generate a lot of heat, so a good water cooler like a Corsair H100i or a Kraken X60 is pretty much required. I'm just looking into a 4670k because it's overall cheaper.

                          And no problem.

                          I'd also pick up a 1TB HDD rather than a 500GB, the Caviar Blue line has comparable performance to the Black for half the price.
                          AMD FX 9370 Black Edition Octa Core 4.4GHz 4.7GHz Max Turbo 16MB AM3+ is a monster, then (It's cheaper than i7 4770k)? And Nebulon, curiously Corsair H100i is cheaper than the cooler I was thinking to buy. I think you show me a light.

                          BUT, WAIT! A cooler is different than a supplier? Oo
                          Give me something to believe in.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chiefGui View Post
                            AMD FX 9370 Black Edition Octa Core 4.4GHz 4.7GHz Max Turbo 16MB AM3+ is a monster, then (It's cheaper than i7 4770k)? And Nebulon, curiously Corsair H100i is cheaper than the cooler I was thinking to buy. I think you show me a light.

                            BUT, WAIT! A cooler is different than a supplier? Oo
                            The 9370 was actually recommended to me by an enthusiast streamer on Twitch who does a lot of work in Adobe Premier and After Effects as well as heavy gaming.

                            Yeah, the H100i is very reasonably priced for an aftermarket water cooler, the only thing is you need to have a case compatible with it, which the Corsair 500R definitely is.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nebulon Ranger View Post
                              The 9370 was actually recommended to me by an enthusiast streamer on Twitch who does a lot of work in Adobe Premier and After Effects as well as heavy gaming.

                              Yeah, the H100i is very reasonably priced for an aftermarket water cooler, the only thing is you need to have a case compatible with it, which the Corsair 500R definitely is.
                              Good to know that AMD is powerful. Seriously. It's relatively cheap here. By the bye, suppliers are different than coolers? Seriously, I really do not know. :O

                              And this Corsair 500R is beautiful!
                              Give me something to believe in.

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