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    Is it possible to make a 'good' fps game without paying money in marketplace?

    Hello,
    i am new unreal engine so please dont hate if its the wrong category for this answer and Iam not good at english too.

    I wanted to make a FPS Game and I thougt unreal engine is cause of the known games like fortnite, Pubg a good choice.
    So I watched tutorial series on YouTube and for me, it seems that the requirement is to buy some packs for animations, character etc. Because it felt so unprofessional to position the elements with the cursor.

    #2
    The best way to make a game is with entirely custom content. When you use marketplace content it's going to be a bit more different than the style that you really want for your game. What that does is make your game have graphics that aren't consistent. Besides that, people can recognize when store assets are used in a game and that gives a negative feeling like you didn't do much work to create the game. For example, PUBG uses marketplace and free starter content and that along with many of the games bugs gives the impression that they didn't do a good job making the game.

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      #3
      At first i want to learn how to do the fp character (game) and the basic. I actually didnt have a no game idea, I want to make just a normal shooter like the look from pubg, ironsight. But I think with the tutorial from Youtube I wont create a good and precise aim down sight and weapon placement, the design is overall not that precise.

      Tutorial Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DywB...qSq-aEo6ZXLDLg
      Last edited by ejakulatje; 05-25-2018, 08:20 PM.

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        #4
        What DV said is gold! The marketplace isn't all that Plug-and-Play.
        You will still need to invest huge amounts of time to make it all work...
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        What are the BEST Unreal Tutorials / Docs? There are none tbh... Here's why
        Instead its better to just take projects apart (see the free 'creators' listed here)

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          #5
          I know, but where can I get the knowledge and learn these things?

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            #6
            Originally posted by M1TCHIE View Post
            Is it possible to make a 'good' fps game without paying money in marketplace? / Where can I get the knowledge and learn these things?
            M1TCHIE

            Work smart, narrow down the field of study... There are loads of free FPS templates. Go through Community-Tools, the UE4-Launcher and here. Do this to discover what you really need, before going to the marketplace, as there's no try before you buy option there. Read other beginner posts before starting out too, as it'll help versus wasting time on the wrong things or losing time/work!

            You can start out with characters, aiming and weapons. But that's one of the hardest parts to get right along with AI / Multiplayer / C++ etc. Its far easier to make environments first, or do what a lot of devs do... Just focus on learning gameplay elements using makeshift 'greyed-out' levels. Then improve on those afterwards. All the answers are here on the forums... Search and leave some quality time for reading as well....
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            What are the BEST Unreal Tutorials / Docs? There are none tbh... Here's why
            Instead its better to just take projects apart (see the free 'creators' listed here)

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              #7
              Where can I find some fps templates?

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                #8
                Hi, I'm not sure where you can find some templates but I know for sure is that the templates that come with Unreal Engine are good enough to get you started if you can't buy content from the marketplace, I couldn't pay for marketplace items due to my location but I did purchase 1 pack, Explosion Builder because it looked better than anything I could make myself, I had to buy it directly from the creator, everything else for my game I either created myself or used the free assets from epic, all you have to do is find good enough tutorials and software then learn what you need to learn, there is a lot free ones out there. And if you don't have a team and don't plan on having 1 I also recommend learn how to model and animate, within 2 years I was able to learn, create, and launch my own game on steam, but I already knew how to model and animate so that was a big advantage for me in terms of content creation.

                In the end I can say you don't need marketplace to make a good game, market place makes it a bit easier and faster. What you really need is to learn the right skills and knowledge, without the right skills and knowledge marketplace items will be useless to you. tutorials are your best friend, just dig in and don't give up.
                Last edited by I Create Art!; 05-26-2018, 03:40 PM.

                Unreal Marketplace Seller Page

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                  #9
                  My advice would be to avoid using marketplace content until you have a good grasp on the fundamentals of developing in UE4. There are a number of good reasons for this:

                  1) They may have additional features or dependencies which you don't want or need in your project, leading to incompatibilities which create more work for you to surgically remove them
                  2) You won't have the knowledge to be able to customise the project as described in point 1, making you dependent on others for support and leading to frustration
                  3) You won't learn anything, as in a best case scenario the assets will effectively be black boxes that "just work" somehow

                  My advice would be to start your project at the beginning and break it down into manageable chunks. Don't Google "how to make an FPS game in UE4" because the subject is too broad, and you'll run into some of the same problems I listed above if you load up a YouTube video and start blinding following it step-by-step to create someone else's FPS shooter template.

                  Instead, look for tutorials on each aspect of gameplay. How does player input and movement work? How does the camera work? How do game types work? Learn about these separately from each other, because once you understand the basic building blocks of a playable game in UE4, you'll then be able to create your game the way you want it to work. As you get more experienced, you'll become more specific in your searches and you'll be able to describe more precisely what you need, making it much more likely you'll find the help you need online.

                  Good luck!

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                    #10
                    Could you recommend me some sources to learn the basics?
                    And should I learn it with visual scripting or c++ at the beginning?
                    Last edited by ejakulatje; 05-26-2018, 06:01 PM.

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                      #11
                      I made a fairly complex first person shooter called Revulsion and its on steam early access. There is no better tech in existence right now to build a solid fps as easily.
                      - Russell Meakim AKA The Castle
                      BLOG: https://steemit.com/@thecastle

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by M1TCHIE View Post
                        Could you recommend me some sources to learn the basics?
                        And should I learn it with visual scripting or c++ at the beginning?
                        Start with the FPS template project that comes out of the box. It's pretty basic and doesn't have a lot of complex code in it.

                        Start with Blueprints if you have never worked with a programming language before, as it will be easier for you to get started without the additional overhead of having to learn C++ as well. Start looking into how you can change and manipulate the default template: change the appearance of the projectiles, make the weapon rapid fire, make the character run faster and jump higher and so on. Having specific objectives like that will help guide you as you start pulling the blueprints apart, rather than randomly clicking through them.

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                          #13
                          Can I do everything with blueprints what I can also do with c++?

                          P.S. sry for bad english
                          Last edited by ejakulatje; 05-27-2018, 06:03 PM.

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                            #14
                            Since marketplace is full of elitist functions, macros and interfaces instead of proper blueprints nodes, everything here is useless.
                            It easier to do everything on your own or from tutorials than to understand this ****.

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                              #15
                              First of all, ignore everything that Dudester says, he doesn't understand the first thing about programming. As for your question - the vast majority of "real" games do completely custom assets, due to two reasons primarily: Original looks and perhaps more importantly, most of the assets on the marketplace are not production ready and are just half-***** cash-grabs. They are good for learning and prototyping but there are very few that you can actually use in a finished game.

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