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    Is making a game about nazi's illegal?

    I want to make a game where player plays as a nazi German soldier who have to kill soldiers of allied forces. I am curious if this is legal as it may be considered as nazi propaganda which is illegal. I am not talking about UN'S human rights like freedom of speech and expression through art as it has nothing to do with lot's of countries totalitarian laws(like USA). It is legal in your country? Share you thoughts and experience.

    #2
    It wouldn't be illegal in the U.S.
    That'd be well within freedom of speech. Though note that if you were to do something very controversial it's something that Epic could be unhappy about, they can control who is allowed to use their engine, though they allowed that game called Hatred to continue to use UE4. They didn't allow them to promote it using the UE4 logo though.

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      #3
      Originally posted by darthviper107 View Post
      It wouldn't be illegal in the U.S.
      That'd be well within freedom of speech. Though note that if you were to do something very controversial it's something that Epic could be unhappy about, they can control who is allowed to use their engine, though they allowed that game called Hatred to continue to use UE4. They didn't allow them to promote it using the UE4 logo though.
      That's cool then! Thanks

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        #4
        Originally posted by QurbanOlum View Post
        That's cool then! Thanks
        Don't celebrate just yet....

        If you do it well, cool maybe. But if you do it badly expect some backlash.
        Something like 'The Man in the High Castle', shows credible Nazi POV....

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          #5
          Originally posted by darthviper107 View Post
          Though note that if you were to do something very controversial it's something that Epic could be unhappy about, they can control who is allowed to use their engine
          Point out where it says in the license that they are allowed to terminate it without reason? As far as I understood it, epic does not have that right.

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            #6
            May I ask why do you want the player to play the nazi side and not the allies, like US, france, uk, .. ?

            The thing is, unless people play both sides in a competitive shooter, people won't be happy about this, especially in Europe, even more so in Germany. Fairly so, because the nazis were the bad guys and they commited a lot of horrible atrocities.
            Most people remember this, so get ready for some (or a lot) backlash and controversy.

            Also be advised, if you make the player play as a nazi only, forget about Germany as a market. It will be banned right away. (I am from Germany)

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              #7
              I AM IN NO WAY MEANS OF A LAWYER. BUT THIS IS HOW I FEEL AND MY TWO CENTS:

              I believe in the first amendment of the right to express your-self to the fullest no matter how someone feels, due to social media these days everything is a crybaby ordeal and etc. and hopefully it dies down soon. I believe a business can't turn down a racist or somebody because of their free-speech because it's illegal.

              As far as it is, I wouldn't mind playing a Nazi. Now in today's world: Where I'll feel you're very racist and making a Nazi game either due to things in America or don't care I most definitely won't play, and will be offended(Due to trump, killings, rally's and etc.). But all in all that's your right, I player call of duty ummmmmm........... I think it's black ops 3 on ps4 and Xbox one... I felt HIGHLYYYY OFFENDED!!!!! That the only black guy in the game the way he was killed. Electrocuted kicked out the window and impaled on a stake, And then said " You treated him like a animal" which is a racist term against African Americans. Although I didn't favor COD and mainly played their solo campaigns beforehand a little bored that time with bo3... I will never play again!!!

              But if that's what you market hey whatever... Like I'll be disappointed with Sony or something because I grew up on them. Then some random guy making a game.
              Last edited by krisgoku2; 11-04-2017, 06:02 PM.

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                #8
                There are published games that already exist using the Unreal Engine that let you play as National Socialist against allied forces. Red Orchestra 2 for example. Not a big deal if you ask me.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Zeblote View Post

                  Point out where it says in the license that they are allowed to terminate it without reason? As far as I understood it, epic does not have that right.
                  They can change the terms of the license at any time

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by darthviper107 View Post
                    They can change the terms of the license at any time
                    Plus, there are hints / possible rulings in past threads...
                    [Search for posts covering 'adult-themed' games etc].

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by franktech View Post

                      Plus, there are hints / possible rulings in past threads...
                      [Search for posts covering 'adult-themed' games etc].
                      I'M NOT A LAWYER:

                      But I think that may fall under discrimination.....adult-Themed is considered art to some people

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kufi-Smacker View Post

                        I'M NOT A LAWYER:

                        But I think that may fall under discrimination.....adult-Themed is considered art to some people
                        That's definitely not discrimination.

                        A. Discrimination in the USA only applies to things like employment, house, and public accommodation, and only for things like age, disability, national origin, pregnancy, race/color Religion, sex, etc.

                        B. You have to accept UE4 terms and conditions, you don't have any right to be able to use the engine.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by darthviper107 View Post

                          They can change the terms of the license at any time
                          You can continue using the engine under the old terms without updating it.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by spacegojira View Post
                            May I ask why do you want the player to play the nazi side and not the allies, like US, france, uk, .. ?

                            The thing is, unless people play both sides in a competitive shooter, people won't be happy about this, especially in Europe, even more so in Germany. Fairly so, because the nazis were the bad guys and they commited a lot of horrible atrocities.
                            Most people remember this, so get ready for some (or a lot) backlash and controversy.

                            Also be advised, if you make the player play as a nazi only, forget about Germany as a market. It will be banned right away. (I am from Germany)
                            Why in the hell you start allies list from US, france and UK, not USSR? Don't teach me what they have commited - my nation lost 20 millions in this war, while USA and europe were hiding.
                            And I don't care if the game will be banned in a few countries. Even if it will be banned in 80% of countries. The reason I want to make such a game, is that I want a fresh, controversial and brave look on things. Also I don't like this mass hypocritic histeria about WW2 telling me what to do. I want to exercies my right of free speech and create games on such topics. I hope UE supports free speech - the basic human right. Is UE against human rights? We'll see.
                            Last edited by Dudester01; 11-05-2017, 05:07 AM.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ZacD View Post

                              That's definitely not discrimination.

                              A. Discrimination in the USA only applies to things like employment, house, and public accommodation, and only for things like age, disability, national origin, pregnancy, race/color Religion, sex, etc.

                              B. You have to accept UE4 terms and conditions, you don't have any right to be able to use the engine.
                              Like I Said I'm not a lawyer: But you do have a right under discrimination and a lot of things fall under certain rules. I cant deny someone from a business for whatever personal reason and serve the next person. many rules apply. that does apply to business ethics like a bank can't turn down a racist because he's racist for example, each thing is governed around certain terms.

                              Besides that I thought about it and would say I wouldn't play a Nazi game because I thought well what if I was Jewish I would be very offended so no. But some people think ww2 wasn't cool because America bombed innocent people while japan bombed a military base. As much as I hate it I respect his right to do what he wants as a American.

                              Also if you're a lawyer congressman pretty much anything that has to do with the public and government jobs, have to get you out of that position
                              Last edited by krisgoku2; 11-05-2017, 07:36 AM.

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